Microsoft Confirms Increase In Xbox One’s Graphic Processor Clock Speed

Rumors have been floating around the net these past few weeks suggesting that Microsoft were in the process of changing some of the hardware in the Xbox One.

While the majority of what was rumored is still rumored, today Xbox Live’s Larry “Major Nelson” Hyrb took to his blog with a podcast confirming the Xbox One’s graphic processor bump.

An example that’s actually been really good news for us, an example of that is we’ve tweaked up our clock speed on the GPU from 800 MHz to 853 MHz. Just an example of how you really start landing the program as you get closer to launch.

It’s just an example where we really get close to the final performance envelope of how the box works and really making sure we have a great product for our developers to build great games against.

Other rumors stated that Microsoft would increase the RAM to 12GB, though they most likely stem from the dev kit models of the Xbox One, considering that they are said to have 12GB. As with any gaming consoles, typically, the dev kits have more RAM than the consumers models. We will just have to wait ’til Gamescom to know for sure.

Thanks, NextVG.

  • Izzy Bozz

    Not a huge difference, but i’m curious to find out what other changes they’ve made to the hardware. It also seems like MS has several different dev-kits with different specs and they’re still trying to decide which one to go with.

    • XFistsClenchedX

      In the podcast, Marc Whitten made it sound like they were pretty close to having everything finalized. That was my impression anyway.

    • Alex | FamousIsLIVE

      Either way PS fanboys will find something to bitch about lol

      • James Mulhall

        I guess you could say the same for both sides..

        • That guy you might know

          Don’t forget the PC Master Race group.

          • zacflame

            and don’t forget WiiU hipsters.

        • Alex | FamousIsLIVE

          I haven’t seen much PS4 bashing

          • Gannon

            Perhaps there is a reason for that…

            …couldn’t be

            • Alex | FamousIsLIVE

              Because people that are getting the Xbox One don’t give a fuck about trying to make their console look better, when it already is better. Not trolling just fucking around. Don’t take it too seriously lol

  • John Carroll

    Yeah this is nothing they have backtracked on either like the Internet wants you to believe they just seen room where they could get more power

  • XFistsClenchedX

    Basically, what happened was Microsoft found that the GPU could be overclocked a smidge without going over their heat, noise, and reliability requirements.

  • Blaine Reinsma

    doesn’t make much of a difference. I believe the PS4 already had an even bigger increase in clock speeds as well. Increasing to 12GB RAM might actually help developers fit more into their games considering the 8GB is shared between CPU and GPU, and for some reason MS allocated a ridiculous amount of RAM to the OS and other non-gaming things.

    • XFistsClenchedX

      No, the PS4 is still at 800mhz.

      • Blaine Reinsma

        Still has 1152 cores compared to X1′s 768 cores, which makes a MUCH bigger difference than clock speeds. The PS4′s clock increase is a rumor just like the X1′s though, just hasn’t been confirmed.

        • XFistsClenchedX

          Both consoles have the same number of cores. You’re talking about shaders. The PS4′s clock increase was a rumor from 6 months ago that never happened.

          • Blaine Reinsma

            CPU cores, yes. Both have 8. shaders are also called stream processors or, for Nvidia specifically, CUDA cores. Anyway, the difference is definitely not minimal when combining the GPU and RAM differences.

            • XFistsClenchedX

              The difference in specs may not be minimal, but the difference in games will be minimal.

            • paulinacio

              3rd Party will be minimal but we have seen what Sony 1st Party developers can do which has got me excited for Next Gen. Microsoft hasn’t showed too many games that has me excited but that might change in the coming months

            • XFistsClenchedX

              Sony’s exclusives are overhyped. They aren’t any better than Microsoft’s exclusives. The Xbox One exclusives are bringing next-gen gaming experiences, but the PS4 games are not.

            • Raymond Featherston

              Warning: what you are bout to read is an opinionated comment heavily laced with logic, and is no way meant to try to defend the PS4 or attack Xbone in anyway. What is a next gen experience is subjective, you say they are over hyped but again that is all perspective as I personally think Halo is overhyped and needs to die along with COD. The line between fact and opinion are very clear here, but you (on most articles not just this one) seem to fail to see where the line is. I personally think Ryse is a glorified GoW with little actual interaction to your personal combat (The commanding soldiers is cool and deserves to be loved at this point, but from what was seen of the actual combat it just looks like a simple counter system which is not anything new). Please stop treating what you think as if it is fact, because all this is about perspective, it is fine to say you dislike the PS4 exclusives but to say none of them are “next gen experiences” is something you cannot support with any sort of facts or reasonable logic at this point in time, if you are going say those things at least wait until the games are out. You cannot draw such conclusions from short gameplay shots or teaser trailers, and to do so is wholly illogical. For someone who claimed console equality above you sure did abandon that notion here. But I am sure if I said I thought the Xbone titles were not “next gen experiences” you would have gotten all up in arms about it.

            • XFistsClenchedX

              Ryse has facial animation unlike any game I’ve ever seen. Quantum Break has great facial animation too, plus they’re attempting to combine a tv show and game together. Kinect Sports Rivals creates a character for you based on a Kinect scan of your face and body. In Dead Rising 3, the zombies can hear you through the Kinect and you can brush zombies away by making that motion in real life. One developer is going to look into using the Kinect to dynamically alter the in-game atmosphere for a horror game application. Forza Motorsport 5 is utilizing MS’ Azure cloud service to build better AI. Titanfall is combining multi-player and single-player in such a way that if you weren’t told that humans were playing with you, you wouldn’t know. Those are the examples I can think of right now. From what I’ve seen with the PS4, you’re getting PS3 games with better graphics and that’s it.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Ding Ding Ding! XFistsClenchedX-1 Raymond Featherston-0

            • Raymond Featherston

              Yes he gets a point if you consider being a fanboy who does not know the difference between fact and opinion deserves a point.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              The term fanboy is just proof you are immature. Get over yourself. Everything thrown about is opinion. The damn systems aren’t even out yet and your getting butt hurt over some guys opinion. Grow up.

            • Raymond Featherston

              The ironic thing about this comment is that I am pretty sure I’ve seen you use “fanboy” before.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              I’m sure I have used the term fanboy before… I like to call people out when they call someone a fanboy. It’s a pathetic term and I would like to see where I called you a fanboy.

            • Pat “Bam Bam” Healy

              Im not the most active of posters around here, but I do keep up to the play, so I’m going to play devils advocate here.

              Your response attacking Ray for using the word fanboy completely dodges the point he makes. Whether you approve of the term or not, you must be able to understand his sentiments. I also don’t think use of very common, widely used terminology says much about a persons maturity level, but if I humor you in this instance, Ray has stated his age (15 or 16?) several times in other comments, if we assume you are correct, then you have proved a redundant point. On the other end of the argument we have you, a self proclaimed “grown man” who again in this instance has cast doubt upon his maturity level, willfully or not, by ignoring what Ray has actually said to instead focus on his use of a colloquialism. And butthurt? Seriously? Then you tell an intelligent, thoughtful kid to grow up? Well played!

              If you decided to use application of your “logic fairly” your same argument should also be applied to fists clenched.

              And by all means if you have an appropriate alternative to the term fanboy, please share it. I’d like a “mature” alternative that describes the same totally biased company loyalty.

              I realize I started this comment by saying I’d play devils advocate, but as I wrote I really did come to realize just how unjust your comment was. Yeah, Ray seems a bit argumentative, but he generally seems to come from a well intentioned, grounded place that’s one hell of a lot more objective than your friend clench. You on the other hand, I’ve seen you be a lot more objective than what you have been recently, maybe its time to relax, and let some things slide? Maybe even take a break from forums if its getting to you that bad?

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Your reply was well thought out. Thank you. Now lets finish this up and I’mg going to start by saying this is the one and only reply you will get from me. Something I can see you don’t realize is that they were both arguing over what is better. What is better of something that isn’t out yet. Everything is opinionated. You said “my friend”. It’s a forum he isn’t my friend. I had the same opinion as him. Now the kid that you speak of was saying how ps4 is next gen. That’s opinion. It’s not to me. It’s an upgraded pc hardware, but nothing screams next gen to me. Like still using the same old bluetooth 3.0 when 4.0 had been out for a couple years. Why couldn’t they do something next gen. I am buying for and 8 year console. The other guy(since he isn’t my friend I don’t even remember his screen name without scrolling up) was stating my same thoughts on what next gen should be like. I agree with him. Now I replied with a point scale, and he got upset. Yes I did use the word butthurt. It’s been thrown around too much here and I usually don’t use it, but with him being a kid(like you said) I chose that word because he would be able to easily relate to it. So now we come to the conclusion. Them arguing over fact and opinion. Neither showed facts because the products they were arguing over are out yet. I sided with one person on their opinion and mentioned it. So whats worse here. 1. two people arguing over opinions. 2.Him getting upset I sided with the other guy 3.Some random person coming in to lecture me about something I posted on a forum. You weren’t playing “devils advocate”. If it made you feel better to THINK you were proving a point. Then please stop reading now and think that. Now my point. You did nothing for the conversation. You strayed off topic and didn’t help. You singled me out(not very mature) but yet your trying to call me immature for saying butthurt. I used one word. I didn’t post an article attacking his well being like you have.
              It’s a forum, for you to say I need to relax would mean that you are thinking I’m posting arguments, or anger. I guess you don’t know me very well then. Did you know that when you read someones words and don’t know them you can read them with how you are feeling. So if you read into my post as angry, then maybe it’s you that needs a break. You are the one that joined a conversation and never even mentioned the topic at hand, all you did was attack me. You added nothing to the conversation except to back up someones opinion(your own and the “kid”). To attack me for giving my opinion. Good job sir. You did nothing to help.

            • Raymond Featherston

              “You singled me out(not very mature) but yet your trying to call me immature for saying butthurt.” You mean like you singled me out here and called me immature for using “fanboy”, whoopsies do I sense a hypocrite?

            • ThtJstHapnd

              You responded to my post with the term fanboy. You replied to me. This guy singled me out. I didn’t single you out, in a reply to you. I replied to the other guy and you replied to me…

            • Pat “Bam Bam” Healy

              Don’t worry, I don’t intend to waste my breath beyond this comment, further efforts will most likely prove fruitless. All you have done is try to justify the inane and write one law for you, and one for everyone else. I’m not sure if its your cognitive ability or you’re just too defensive to demonstrate a level of self awareness. Anyhow, good luck my friend, I sincerely hope you don’t approach real life in the same manner you tackle discussion on forums.

            • Raymond Featherston

              You are now officially one of my favorite people (along with Dirt). I actually enjoy being argumentative, its good practice for when I return to the debate team this school year!

            • Pat “Bam Bam” Healy

              When I see someone take a reasonable position and back it up with logic, that warrants defense. It’s unfortunate the poster in question hasn’t taken a step back to examine his conduct and (in this instance, lack) of critical thinking, he wasnt too bad before, if not a little aggressive unnecessarily.

              Good luck when you head back to school, this is surely a good warm up for debate team.

            • Raymond Featherston

              Key phrase ” From what I’ve seen”, it is too early to judge anything and like I said there really is no definition of “Next Gen”. In all technicality if it is on next gen consoles it is a next gen game regardless of features. Regardless of the currently announced features and your opinion you cannot strut around making those accusations at this time, It is just not logical. You have yet to provide a definition of “next gen” which is what you are basing your point on, and if you cannot define the base you use then your point really does not hold any meaning, So to sum things up 1: There is no current definition of “next gen”, so you can not logically use that 2: All this is subjective 3: Your opinion of those features is not a base for what you said 4: It is too early to say anything like this anyways 5: You weaken your stance when you constantly worship the Xbone’s feet and refuse to acknowledge it’s faults (this point is applicable on most of your other comments but not this one) 5: you cannot treat your opinions of these games as facts as you try to do 6: Even when a definition of next gen can be formed, the definition will be different for everybody so your point is moot 7: Your opinion is yours only and you cannot apply it to others (as you imply), did you ever consider that others may think differently and tat itself makes what you said non-factual :)

            • XFistsClenchedX

              Tell me about what new gameplay experiences have been shown or talked about in PS4 games so far. I bet you can’t, because there aren’t any. If you think new graphics is “next-gen” then you’re doing it wrong. Kinect will be the future of gaming. It won’t take over for a controller, but it will augment the gaming experiences of the future. At least Microsoft is trying to bring new gameplay experiences to their console. All Sony has is “Woo I can shoot animals out of my controller!”.

            • Raymond Featherston

              You are missing my point entirely, I was not saying they are doing any such thing what I was saying is that it is 1: to early to tell 2: Next gen cannot be defined yet by anybody 3: No matter what the features are this is still a subjective topic 4: All games announced for PS4 or Xbone are technically “next gen” as they are on a next gen system, game on next gen console=next gen game (it just makes sense right?).
              You fail to see that this is all subjective and what you consider to be new or innovative may not be so for somebody else

            • XFistsClenchedX

              1) It isn’t too early to tell that the PS4 isn’t doing anything revolutionary or next-gen right now. It isn’t too early to tell that there are no new gameplay experiences found on the games that they’ve shown so far. In the future, those things could change, but for now, there is nothing forward-thinking about the PS4 or its games. 2) Yes, it can. 3) I don’t think it is all that subjective. You’re either doing something new and exciting or you aren’t. 4) I find it funny that you say that next-gen can not be defined then literally 2 sentences later you define it. The fact of the matter is that so far, there is very little “next-gen” about the PS4. In fact, graphics aside, I don’t think there is a PS4 feature you couldn’t do right now on your PS3 with the right accessories/devices.

              I don’t think innovation is subjective. Anyone who doesn’t think the Kinect is an innovation is either stupid or biased against it. Not liking the Kinect doesn’t mean it isn’t an innovation. It is certainly much more high tech and forward thinking than anything Nintendo or Sony are using for their motion controls right now. I know a lot about these consoles because I spend a lot of time reading about them, their games, and features on websites like this one. Of course the Kinect came out post-release for Xbox. Microsoft wasn’t working on it until years later when they bought the technology from other people and started working on creating the Kinect.

            • Raymond Featherston

              I said it could not be defined figuratively as you do at this moment, not that it could not be defined from a technical standpoint there is in fact a difference. But seeing as how you are not and never do speak in technicalities I doubt you were giving a logically just technical definition.

              How is it not subjective? What is and is not innovative is up to each individual to decide, there is no set definition saying “Something is innovative if and only if it does (insert relevant advancement pertaining to topic here)”. Your view of innovation is different than mine and many others, and the fact that separate differing opinions can be made does in fact make this subjective.

              This is the last time I am saying this because it really is getting frustrating for me (and others from what they have said), just because you think something does not automatically make it an un-interchangeable fact. In these comments it was you thinking that your definition of what is and is not innovative being the only definition, in other comments it has been other things but you really should learn where to draw the line between actual facts and what your opinions are. If you think logically (take off the MS goggles and stop licking their boot for one minute) you will see that this is all subjective, even ThtJstHapnd states below that all of this is opinionated.

              Get it through you head (or not, at this point I am pretty sure that you will ever see any flaw with MS or your poorly formulated egotistical logic) that all of this is opinionated, and just because you love the new Kinect so much and think it is innovative does no mean everybody does. You see Kinect as the only innovation that is being set up, but not everybody shares that sentiment. For example: I could care less about Kinect as most of my gaming takes late at night while the family is asleep, and most of those features require some amount of movement or speech so to me it is just a novelty (and not a great innovation like you think, but this is just my opinion) I may get to use once or twice a month. Not everybody see’s Kinect or Xbone for that matter in the same light as you and that (along with the difference between an opinionated and factual topic) is what you need to learn.

            • This guy again

              Kinect future of gaming. LMFAO. Like it has since it launched. Know how many hardcore gamers I know that has a kinect. ZERO. Enjoy your Kinectimals. LOL Also enjoy your $100 paperweight when XB1 launches.

            • This guy

              Ryse looked like pure God of War copy and paste garbage. Hell The Last of Us looks better than any XB1 exclusive I saw.

            • XFistsClenchedX

              Ryse is nothing like God of War. The combat is more along the lines of the new Batman games with optional QTE finishers you can do just like in the Darksiders games (a Darksiders team is working on the game along with Crytek). If you think the Last of Us looks better than any Xbox One exclusive you saw, you should try learning about the games when you’re sober. Quantum Break is much more interesting than TLoU and TLoU doesn’t touch any of the games graphically.

            • This guy again

              Darksiders cloned God of War also so you need to comment when you are not stoned. And Quantum Break did not even have gameplay it was a teaser trailer so who cares. Plus there is many sony exclusives that have not even been announced yet. Yes TLOU still looks better than the games you mentioned. If you have not played it. Sucks to be you.

            • paulinacio

              lol oh please dude. How old are you?? I have never seen someone defend Microsoft no matter what and diss Sony for everything. The Last of Us is a truly AMAZING game and if you would get the fanboy stick out of your ass you might actually enjoy some awesome games on both system instead of being loyal to just one

            • XFistsClenchedX

              What I am saying is the truth. You don’t have to like it. I owned a PS3. I sold it because it was a terrible games machine and, by the time I got one, it wasn’t a great Blu-Ray player either.

            • paulinacio

              I cant believe that you actually believe the crap that you type LMFAO To say the Uncharted series, The Last of Us, God of War, Killzone, Infamous and more are all crap games is idiotic and nothing more then a fanboish blindness trying to fool yourself into believing yourself. While Tomb Raider visual are great the were no way near as good as uncharted and the 360 version of Xbox was blurry compared to PS3. You say Ryse has better facial animation but I remember Sony showing a small cinematic comedy called Sorcerer running in engine despite it not being a game in development it showed the visual of the game http://i.imgur.com/uTt17zX.jpg

              and here is Ryse http://i.imgur.com/x9jOQOm.jpg

    • John Carroll

      And the PS4 has just as much allocated to their OS

    • ThtJstHapnd

      Clock speeds people keep throwing about mean nothing to most. How come everyone thinks they are computer hardware designers when it comes to console specs.
      Should I take the word of a press release or that of a person who has designed games since I was an infant? Carmack said it himself the consoles have very little difference. All these “Well the PS4 is still 50% faster” Straight out bull. No one will see ANY difference in games from console to console for 8+ years. Both are on the same architecture. Little things people don’t take into consideration is each company has their strengths and weaknesses. It will all play out in to what games you like. Get over the “this spec is better than your consoles”.

      And your Ridiculous amount of ram comment, PS4 uses .5 gb more than the One on their OS, according to MANY articles and DEVS.

      • Mr. Thuggins

        People of the Internet love a good dick measuring contest.

        • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

          it’s like how people constantly talk about benchmarks in smartphones despite it having no relation to real life use

      • Hog Hunting

        The only time and I mean the only time you will see a big gap will be exclusives. PERIOD. And it will be Sony again because the developers that Sony has are second to none.

        • ThtJstHapnd

          I don’t see it that way. I have’t seen any Sony exclusives I like, at all. It’s all in opinion. That’s why the two companies exist. I like the games I see on MS and how they play. I haven’t liked a single game on Sony console for a very long time. Maybe early PS2.

    • Joey Marcelo Asturias

      5GB is reserved for games and the other 3 are used for the 3 OS’ the X1 comes with but they have confirmed that if the game needs more then 5GB, the X1 will use up all that it needs to run at top notch. So please research a little before you decide to post anything

      • XFistsClenchedX

        I don’t know where you heard that, but it’s not true. MS reserved 3GB for the OS and for potentially adding features in the future. However, the operating system could be slimmed down in the future, allowing more RAM for games.

        • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

          I heard that the Hypervisor in Xbox One allows the other OS to be disabled, freeing up RAM for games.

          • XFistsClenchedX

            That is impossible. Then the snap feature wouldn’t work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

      Why do you think the PS4 has 8GBs SOLEY for games? It’s 8GBs GDDR5 of SYSTEM MEMORY. The console has a ton of background process and the features that will eat up RAM. Automatically recording 15 minutes of 1080p HD video, running the game, whatever other app you have when you use Suspend/Resume, backround updating, and so on. Sony stated that the there is 1GB of “flexible RAM” that can be borrowed from the OS to use for games, so at the most PS4 can only allocate 5-5.5GBs(If the PS4 OS does in fact use 3.5GB.) Its the same way for Xbox One, it uses 3GB of RAM for (3 different Operating Systemes)and 5 for games, except Xbox One has Hyper Visor(Hyper-V) that can disable the consoles other OSes to allow devs to use more RAM for games, as much as 6 or 7 possibly (Downside being you lose multitasking abilities like playing videos or apps while playing a game)

      • wubwub

        the whole ps4 ram thing has not been confirmed

  • WarHero

    It’s not much but it’s better than nothing, 53Mhz isn’t a huge difference just only a 5-7% increase of performance. Still could’ve done better Microsoft :/

    • XFistsClenchedX

      This wasn’t a major attempt to improve the power of the Xbox One. They were just a little conservative with their targets and found they could increase the speed a smidge while still meeting their requirements for heat, noise, reliability, and such.

      • WarHero

        All these specs aside,it all comes down to how the developers use it. For example,Naughty Dog with the Last of Us or Epic Games with Gears of War,developers can do wonders with less powerful if they put their minds to it.

        • XFistsClenchedX

          I’m not that worried about it. PS4 games and Xbox One games will essentially look the same anyway.

          • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson
            • XFistsClenchedX

              Why did you link me to that?

            • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

              Felt it was relevant to your comment

          • bedeedomanium

            Yea xuz xbox is always holding everyone back, ps4 could run pc qualify games if developers didn’t have to worry aboit dumbing it down for xbox

            • jaskdavis

              You know nothing…

      • Alpine

        you work for MS ? anyways, it doesnt matter..it all comes down to EXCLUSIVES…i have never had an Xbox but Titan Fall makes me get it (though, it is on PC too)

        • XFistsClenchedX

          No, but Albert Penello does. He has been posting at NeoGAF and he explained why the overclock happened and I relayed that info below

    • jaskdavis

      Thats a lot for overclocking existing hardware but it’s ok since you didn’t know ;). Any who that’s 5-10 more FPS buddy!

      • XFistsClenchedX

        No. It’s more like 1-2 more fps. And that’s per Microsoft. 53mhz isn’t a big deal.

        • jaskdavis

          Proof? I Overclocked my HP back in the day while playing CS 1.6 and OC 47mhz from 500 to 547mhz and boosted my FPS from 35 to 50 while keeping the same graphical settings and not touching the hardware, but after a few hours I burnt the CPU up from trial and error :/ do you even game on PC?

          • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

            no you didnt. now go sit in the corner =/

  • no

    Hello red ring of death

    • XFistsClenchedX

      Negative.

    • PuddingAuxRais1ns

      I doubt it. The X1 has a huge heatsink and fan to keep it’s innards cool. Plus it’s large so it can supposedly stay on for 10 years.

      • bedeedomanium

        PS3 and ps4 can stay on forever and not have a problem, X1 can only be on for 10 years? theure still using dated technology as is ps4 but xbox has more dated hardware causing developors to dumb down games for ps4

        • John Carroll

          You go ahead and leave that hotbox on for 5 days straight and see if the PS4 doesn’t blow up. By the way it’s not made to just run for ten years it’s made to run for ten years straight without ever turning off before it could have possible system failures. For Sony fanboy’s that 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year with the inclusion of leap year 366 days straight for ten year.. with no system failures.

          • Nathan Cleary

            made to run 10 years straight? Where has this come from?

            There is literally no possible way which this could have been tested. Unless they completed the console 10 years ago and have had it running ever since.

          • Alec Cooper

            You have to keep in mind, those things are only generating a large amount of heat when they are gaming, not when they’re just ‘on’. If the processor or graphics chip isn’t being taxed much, not much heat will result from such. So, you could probably keep both of them ‘on’ for 20+ years and they’ll be ok. But if you’re gaming on them 24/7, I doubt they’d last longer than 5 years. Gaming PC’s with liquid cooling that are used daily can go for roughly 4-5 years before a part needs replacing. In all, depends on how much these things are gaming.

          • bedeedomanium

            I could keep it on for 10 years straight, after all my system isn’t the one known for overheating so how can you call it a hotbox? Have fun playing your xbox for 4 hours then have to turn it off before you get the red ring

      • Wolfy420

        Not only that but the games are installed now, no disc needed.

        • ThtJstHapnd

          Disc is needed to be in the drive, to verify it’s your game. Now the original version before the 180, no you didn’t need the disc, once you installed.

          • Wolfy420

            I think u need to do some homework before commenting. If you were actually to read a couple articles you would know that the disc is not needed after the first installation!

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Are you trolling me? Your telling me to do research? Before the 180 you put the disc in and install it. Put away your disc, and then the system every 24 hours checks online to make sure no one else has that disc. Now that it doesn’t need to be online every 24hrs there is no way for it to check online if others are using the disc, so now the disc HAS TO BE IN THE DRIVE, for it to work. If not then everyone of my friends and I will just buy one game and share them between each other and just install them all. That means I can buy dead rising 3 and install it on all my friend’s Xbox Ones, and they will get to play it. Think about it, that would be stupid. I can’t expect much from someone with “420″ in their username though can I?

            • XFistsClenchedX

              This is correct.

  • Raymond Featherston

    This is good, even though it is a small one they did see room for improvement and took it. Good for them, but I fail to see why people are like “ermahgerd PS4 gotzz more RAM” the games will look about the same on both consoles. And this is coming from somebody who is getting the PS4, god I hate fanboys…………….

  • Magilla187

    i think this is great all around, meaning next gen will be the console generations when games shine the most because they aren’t being held back by hardware limitations as it was current generation this is exciting for all gamers in general

    • John Carroll

      ^This

  • jahladagaming

    I’m no tech head, but why would DEV kits not have the same specs as retail models? Surely that would mean games developed might not run correctly?

    • John Carroll

      Don’t quote me on this but I’m pretty sure it’s so they can put very thing on at once then trim it down to fit with all of the allocated room on the console.

  • Justin Mckay

    I swear if my xbox catches fire….

  • Michael Frame

    You people that are arguing over which is better, xbox1 or ps4, need to argue over something that is much more important. Like right now, im stuck deciding which is better, m&ms plain chocolate or peanut butter? Thats more important that what console is better!

    • Dirtknap

      I’m going to go ahead and vote for peanut butter. I sure hope no one flames me for preferring peanut butter over chocolate, but I still enjoy both :O

      • Raymond Featherston

        What the hell is wrong with you, you f*****g n00b chocolate is godly. Only a dumb n00b would choose that crap peanut butter, and you must be gay if you like that. Oh how I love reading comments like that XD

        • Dirtknap

          Hahaha! It’s like my dog and I, but he prefers to poop on the lawn, and I’m the kind of guy who likes to sit on the toilet. But we’re still good buds and get along despite residing in different camps on the bathroom issue :P

          • Raymond Featherston

            Exactly! Why can’t people who like different consoles just get along, for heaven’s sake it is just video games it is not like it is a world dividing issue. That being said I will admit to not getting along with certain people here that are super fanboyish and illogical (names start with XF and TH, but you know who I am talking about).

            • Alex Melendez

              Me?

            • Raymond Featherston

              No lol, your find I had a tiff with you but all in all your an ok guy :)

            • Dirtknap

              I believe I’ve mentioned this before. The whole console flame war is, as stupid as, and reminiscent of wanting to kill other guys because the first three digits of their phone number are different to yours.

              We all have our moments where perhaps we are less objective or gentlemanly in our conduct, no one should get marked too hard for that, but its the incessant fanboy-ism that really rustles mah jimmies…

            • Raymond Featherston

              I seeing being divided on things like healthcare and economic policies, but to be divided by videogame is just ridiculous. Like you said if people are getting this on edge about somebody liking a different gaming platform than we might as well being killing each other over phone number digits.
              The thing that gets me is the

            • bedeedomanium

              Not about the console themselves, but when the mess powerful system,xbox holds the ps4 back cuz they are cheap and like to.screw their own customers over

            • Raymond Featherston

              But the Xbone is going to cost more than the PS4, so if it is cheap then so is the PS4 just saying.

  • B_Boss

    “The problem is that Sony decided to go out and publish a bunch of
    numbers, which are in some ways meaningless,” he said. “Because this
    isn’t like 1990, when it was 16-bit versus 32-bit.”

    hmm…..

  • Brandon Griffin

    Too little too late, in my humble opinion. Admittedly even if the Xbox 180 blew the PS4 out of the water I’d still buy the latter simply because I am a mindless Sony fanboy with an I.Q. relative to zero.

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