Opinion – Welcome to Next-Gen, Same as the Last-Gen

A question was posed to me recently during a conversation that I was a bit surprised I didn’t have a great answer to:

“Well, what’s a really great next-gen only title?”, he asked.

“Uhhhh…”

When I arrived home later in the day, I checked through my current collection of PlayStation 4 titles only to find nothing that stood out as a definitive next-gen experience. Most of the titles I’ve downloaded off PSN could easily be purchased and played on any semi-competent PC built in the last half decade. There are some PS4 exclusive titles providing some nice visuals, but they don’t provide a gameplay experience worthy of investing in next-gen. Even multi-platform titles like Battlefield 4 are too frustrating to play to make a solid recommendation. Having some time to sit back and evaluate my purchase, the leap to next-gen really hasn’t been worth it thus far.

This leaves me to ponder: when is this generation of consoles going to live up to the next-gen promise?

Having played the alpha and dabbled in the beta, Destiny is easily my most anticipated title releasing this year. If you’re looking for glimmers of hope for this Holiday’s lineup, this is the only apparent shining star. The familiarity with the Halo-inspired gunplay no doubt bodes well for the competitive multiplayer component, but what really has me excited is Bungie’s ambition with their single-player and co-op component. Take the looting craze of Borderlands and Diablo, mix it with a player connected hub akin to Guild Wars, and top it off with a captivating sci-fi narrative from the makers of the Halo universe. Bungie isn’t just looking to make the definitive multiplayer experience. They have their sights set on a completely engrossing single-player experience that will make you never want to push the eject button, no matter what you’re in the mood for.

Beyond Destiny though, the remainder of this Fall’s AAA lineup leaves me entirely underwhelmed. Another year, another Call of Duty. Battlefield Hardline has thankfully been spared from the yearly Holiday cycle for more polish. Based on the E3 beta, it was playing out more like a cops and robbers skin on BF4 than a full-fledged $60 title. If you thought Ubisoft wouldn’t arrive for the Holiday release party, fret not! They’ve graced us with another open world title devoid of substance and female playable characters with more Assassin’s Creed. For next-gen gamers — or at least the ones who bought into the notion of new experiences — how are these releases any cause for excitement? All of these gameplay formulas have been thoroughly explored this past generation, and don’t appear to be exploring new avenues or taking any risks this generation.

What these titles do have going for them on next-gen platforms is increased resolution and framerate. But if that was all players were looking for, wouldn’t they be just as content with a PC? What is your take on this generation so far? Do you think buying into Microsoft and Sony’s new machines at launch was worth it? Do we need to wait until Holiday Season 2015 or beyond before developers really start pumping out the next-gen goodness? Let us know in the comments below.

  • Since the things died down a bit with COD: Ghosts, BF4, and Titanfall, I’ve found myself spending more time with games like CS:GO and Insurgency on my MacBook :S

    Ryse: Son of Rome was a pretty spectacular looking game with amazing motion capture and a really solid story, but I can’t say I stuck around after beating it on the hardest difficulty.

    Definitely looking forward to Destiny.

    • Benjamin

      Ryse was terrible! Aesthetically it was good, but everything else was utterly half arsed. Typical of Crytek.

      • There were a few things I really appreciated about it, one of them being attention to detail. Crytek really did their homework when it came to the setting. Beyond that, I really did enjoy the spot-on motion capture that really helped deliver the solid dialogue. That’s something I’ve yet to see in any other video game.

        I thought the gameplay was totally okay, just way too repetitive. The copy-and-paste barbarians didn’t help either. Got a good chuckle out of that.

        • Benjamin

          I didn’t really see the funny side of the copy and paste player models. It was more like a slap in the face. Luckily it was my friends copy.. which he promptly sold. He said completing it was a chore, and he only did it because he’d spent a tonne of money on the game.

          • Haha. Fair enough. All I’ll say is — not that it’s going to happen — if Crytek were to take a crack at Ryse 2, I’d be interested.

            • Benjamin

              I just wish they could tap into the magic that they used to make Crysis 1. Since then it’s been downhill for them.

            • Samson

              That magic was PC. Notice the series turned to shit once they started catering to consoles

            • ckpinkham

              Catering? Crysis 2 was still focused on PC first. Trust me. I don’t think there was even as single patch after the first 2 months. And I’m pretty sure they don’t support Crysis 3 on consoles either. Of course the biggest issue I had with C2 was the p2p. If it had dedicated servers… holy shit. But it wasn’t that pretty, that’s for sure lol.

            • Guest

              Crysis 2 was obviously console first. It had DX 11 update and launched using dx 9 hahaha, ,

            • ckpinkham

              It was announced for all platforms at the same time, at E3 2009, but trust me, their focus was PC first. They wanted it to be the “graphical benchmark” and “best looking game of all time” which means they had to put a lot more work into the PC version. Also, the PC version was actually supported and updated and patched… the console version was not. Frankly, I’m amazed it even got the 2 DLCs… but I don’t know anyone who bought either one, except this one guy I know who gets a hard on when someone even says “crytek” in conversation.

            • Guest

              Of course the PC version got patched, it needed to be better the consoles

            • You Mad Bro

              Crysis on PS3 and Xbox360 was the exact same game on PC besides the visuals. It is not catering it is called the COD syndrome.

              People buy COD every year even though it is the same game and Crytek decided to follow. Now they are in a state of disarray.

            • Guest

              Do you pay attention? He meant that crysis 2 was built using dx 9 and launched using dx 9, it looked the exact same on PC as it would consoles, it needed a dx 11 update, this is what he meant by the game catering to consoles, us that the game was built for consoles first

            • Fernando

              Me too, but only if they release a decent complete game and not a rushed one like Ryse was.
              Rushed games are the cancer of gaming, look at Battlefield, its going to die for it.

              And most of Destiny appeal to me is that just the beta gameplay seems so solid and seamless that makes me buy it simply out of admiration for such a good delivered work (plus is fun as hell).

            • I honestly feel Ryse wasn’t rushed. It was in development for something like 5 years. To me, it had a decent level of polish (minus the copy-and-paste barbarians, again). It just wasn’t that good of a game or idea to begin with. Gameplay lacked.

            • Jeff Kazimer

              You’re right, it was going to be a 360 game, but in the end 360 hardware wouldn’t of delivered the experience they were hoping for. They had ample time for development!

            • Fernando

              I´ve read somewhere that it was originally designed for being played stricly with kinect, but in the last moment they decided to drop that idea after the bad feedback and complains they got at E3 because of too many QTS, so they had to rush and change the gameplay before release.
              I could have had an original gameplay, but either kinect wasnt working good enough with it or they were afraid that people wouldnt appreciate kinect gameplay… I guess…

      • latch360

        You bitch more than me.

    • CS:GO… The most rage inducing game I’ve ever played yet I keep playing it… Probably because of the skins, and skins = easy cash.

      • The biggest thing keeping me around is the simple drive to get better. Sh*t ain’t easy!

        • The balance system there is making it even harder.

    • jasonxbrookes

      Forza Horizon 2 looks absolutely incredible. Definitely my most hyped title so far.

      AC: Unity is a close second.

    • ckpinkham

      Game? Wasn’t Ryse just a giant QTE? Never played, but that’s what I heard.

  • DMo

    Good read. My opinion: I don’t think this is a new-gen vs old-gen kinda thing. Like you said, if you want better graphics get a PC. It seems that every game is just a carbon copy of another. There’s nothing innovative. Destiny looks pretty, but it’s just a better looking Borderlands. Call of Duty, same shit every year(except the seem to be regressing). BF franchise, same thing. Watchdogs? That’s next gen? It will take some time, but we’ll get our due when it comes to next gen quality.

    • Sgt. Mofo

      I agree, it’ll come eventually. I just felt with Oblivion, Fight Night Round 3, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, and Gears of War all coming out a year within the 360’s release that I would have at least a couple titles worth raving about at this point of the current generation.

      • ckpinkham

        Shadow Of Mordor, Unity, Inquisition… best bet for 2014. I see some promising stuff for later 2015 too. Siege, The Division if it doesn’t get pushed back to 2016 which I think it will… The Phantom Pain… Halo 5 maybe. And the Halo tv show on a slightly unrelated note 😛

        • thatoneguy

          I’m all giddy for Inquisition, and for MKX/Tekken 7.

        • Oblivion_Lost667

          There’s FC4 as well which I’m surprised no one’s mentioned yet, FC3’s SP was some of the most fun I’ve had in a SP FPS in quite some time, at least when it came out, and I have high hopes for FC4, especially since it has open world co-op, that was practically the most requested feature for FC3.

          • ckpinkham

            Farcry isn’t my type of game, and I haven’t seen anything very innovative about FC4 over FC3… at least as far as “nect-gen vs current-gen” stuff… adding 1 feature and updating some graphics doesn’t make it next-gen, imo. It might be fun, similar to BF4 now that the bugs are mostly gone on PS4, but it’s not really next-gen.

  • Not_true

    If you already have a good gaming PC for multiplats, there’s not many “must buy” console exclusives out right now.

  • shodannet

    What was the next gen promise though?

    • New stuff to brag about.

    • Not_true

      Games running on consoles that aren’t 7-8 years old?

    • Sgt. Mofo

      I’ll start off with a comparison – in the first 6 months of the Xbox 360, we saw the introduction of digital demos, no longer needing a subscription to OXM to try new titles. Fight Night Round 3 introduced some decidedly jaw dropping face smashing technology, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter explored the near future setting with some amazing particle effects, and Oblivion came out being the most expansive RPG on consoles and making Morrowind look inferior in comparison. If we extend it out to the whole first year, Gears of War came out becoming arguably the best 3rd person shooter.

      This generation, there was hype about what “the cloud” can do and how dedicated servers would become the norm. BF4 fell flat on its face and only picked itself up off the ground recently. Collapsing skyscrapers are impressive, but only when I’m not being kicked out to the main menu every other match. We’ve gotten plenty of “HD” or “High-res” releases such as Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, Rayman Legends, and the upcoming The Last of Us: Remastered as well as the Master Chief Collection. Pretty looking, certainly, but enough to justify the $60 tag if you played them last-gen? Even the differences between PS3/PS4 Destiny aren’t that drastic. Take away some of the blur and the PS3 version would look pretty close to its PS4 counterpart.

      Both Sony’s and Microsoft’s UI’s have taken a big leap back in usability. Microsoft has practically sent the Kinect out to pasture. Functionality such as custom MP3’s are MIA this go round, and all the bluster about cloud technology seems to have been overblown marketing hype.

      tl;dr There’s not a lot that has me impressed about this generation of consoles thus far.

      • ckpinkham

        Unity seems to have the most promise before 2015… I’m interested in but still skeptical of Rainbow Six Siege… tbh I think Patriots would’ve been 10 times better. Anyway… I’m thinking the most impressive games are going to be The Phantom Pain and The Division next year, as far as technical abilities and such… and Witcher 3 will probably be top 5-10 on practically all GOTY lists. Not as technically impressive probably, but will likely wow people with story, and hopefully improved the gameplay so it’s not as much of a learning curve… still, not impressed by anything yet really.

  • Brandon

    Wait until devs are good at really optimizing the console’s hardware. Look at the difference from Resistance 1 to The Last of Us last gen.

    • shodannet

      Didnt last of us come out at the end of last gen’s life span? :/ Bit of a wait there…

      • Brandon

        Yes, I noted that. Sadly that is the truth of the rut we’re stuck in with these consoles… they will always be inferior to PCs in the grand scheme of things, and that means that games will improve at a significantly slower rate. Even if the consoles received big hardware improvements they can’t be upgraded and improved at the consumer’s convenience. Unless everyone adopts PC gaming things will never change.

        • ckpinkham

          When you can buy 1 gaming PC every 5-8 years, for $400, and not have to worry about upgrading to keep up with the top of the line stuff, and play it in your living or bedroom as easily as you can with a console, and hook it up to your tv as easily, and use a controller… then everyone will be a PC gamer. XD

          • Brandon

            Yes, I understand that is the major selling point of consoles, but the fact is as long as people have that mindset and take the “easy way” (I understand PC gaming is not a solution for many people, financially or otherwise), then gaming will continue to slowly chug along.

            • You Mad Bro

              If you did not have consoles you would not have countless franchises or the gaming industry would barely exist. You think a average everyday person will shell out 800 to 1000 dollars for a gaming PC. LOL.

              Most people do not even know how to turn a computer on much less maintain one for gaming. Consoles will always be around.

            • notmadatall

              You can get a PC that out performs any console for $450 even less if you want to shoot for parity.

            • You scared Bro

              LMFAO. My PC was $450 and it barely runs seek and find games. Quit spewing garbage and lies. You think a $450 PC would play Destiny or BF4 at the settings that PS4 is at and expect it to last 8-10 years like the PS4 will. LMFAO.

              From the get-go, we have a problem: The APU in the PS4 is unique. It pairs an 8-core Jaguar CPU with, essentially, the Radeon HD 7850. The best AMD APU currently on the market (the Richland A10-6800K) has about one third of the processing power of the PS4′s GPU. There are no 8-core Jaguar parts on the market — only the quad-core Kabini A6-5200, which is paired with an even weaker GPU than the A10. Kaveri, when it comes to market in January 2014, will be a closer match — but the PS4 will still have around twice the graphics grunt. In short, we’re forced to use a CPU and discrete GPU. It just got a lot harder to hit our $400 target.

              The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost – an option that isn’t available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. It’s important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3.

            • Brandon

              No, I never said that. I am not that naive. I understand the significance of consoles in the industry’s origins and popularity; to deny that is ignorant. My PC-only-hypothetical is just that, a hypothetical. The fact is that regardless of how popular, simple, and consumer friendly consoles are, they hold back the quality and evolution of gaming.

            • WowSoSpooky

              The PC gaming market is larger than the entire console market combined. The only thing keeping console gaming viable is the paid for exclusive games that Sony/MS throw so much money at developers for. Without them, whats the point?

            • You scared Bro

              Yes but not the High end PC gaming market. People buying PC to play seek and find and WOW is hardly proving anything.

            • You scared Bro

              You really do not get it do you. People who buy consoles are not dumb. I got money to build a PC but I have no interest to do so. Why? Because it is pointless. Every PC only titles are coming to PS4 and we get major franchises like GTA, Halo, Uncharted, and tons of others that you would never see.

              I could not imagine being a PC only gamer and not experiencing games like The Last of Us.

              PC will never ever ever ever beat the plug and play aspect of consoles and the games that comes to them first. If PC was so great then Microsoft would have never made a Xbox in the first place. PC only got a boost because of Dice bringing out BF3 that mnade the versions on consoles look terrible. Well i got a PS4 and I am experiencing BF4 with 64 players and high settings all for only $400 and I get exclusives that will actually push the hardware I got unlike PC.

            • WowSoSpooky

              “Every PC only titles are coming to PS4 and we get major franchises like
              GTA, Halo, Uncharted, and tons of others that you would never see.”

              Yeah sure they are. All of those countless MOBA, RTS, Turn based strat, and 4X games are just right around the corner for the little old PS4 that could.

              That’s the difference between console and PC

              You get exclusive games.

              We get entire exclusive genres.

            • Dregonator

              Add up the cost of your personal computer, your console, and your games. I guarantee you its more than $800, with tons left over for far more games at deep Steam, GoG, and Origin marketplace discounts. The average, everyday gamer knows how to work a pc, and after having it explained, realizes the investment in a pc is far better. This argument you have will be invalid within 5 years. Consoles are already outdated. I will continue playing comfortably on my couch, with an XBox controller, at 1080p/60fps, on my reasonably priced PC.

    • Guest

      The hardware is very similar to PC’s, it shouldn’t take them that long.

      • Brandon

        Lower end PCs, yes. The best PCs money can buy make these consoles look like Fisher Price products.

        • ckpinkham

          The best PCs probably make your PC look like a fisher price product lol

          • Brandon

            Certainly, my PC struggles to run Modern Warfare 2.

  • Benjamin

    It’s a shame Destiny’s multiplayer is absolutely appalling. It makes Battlefield 4 seem solid! The netcode is astonishingly woeful. Punch a guy to finish him? He might die, 3 seconds later.. or he might just bounce off you and kill you with his aim assist enhanced solar ray gun.

    I can get sniper headshots by missing my target completely, or by shooting them in the foot. I’ve done my Titan superpower right onto someone’s face, only for them to dust themselves off and shotgun me. I’ve been killed/taken damage numerous time after I’ve long entered cover. Players teleport, they vanish entirely. I could go on and on. My friends and I have given up on the PvP.

    • Brandon

      It’s only in beta. I know that all problems won’t be magically gone by launch, but a lot probably will. You can’t compare a game like this to one like BF4, that has been out 9 months (even if that game is joked as a beta itself)

      • Benjamin

        If you think those problems will be fixed by launch then you’re kidding yourself. What we’re playing now is pretty much the final product. They can tweak weapons and powers, but the ‘netcode’ won’t change. Weirdly it was better in the Alpha… everyone lagged equally so at least there was a pattern to it. Now it seems like a couple of people on each team have a massive lag advantage. Lord knows what type of system Bungie are using.

        • Not_true

          Might be heavy load from everyone trying out the beta.

          • Benjamin

            I’ve played enough beta’s to know it’ll just get worse.

            • Samson

              Sounds like you just want to complain

            • Benjamin

              Don’t be ridiculous.

        • Brandon

          Not all of them, no, that is a ridiculous expectation. Hell, I’ll change my original statement in that most probably won’t be fixed. Yes, the game is broken, but my point still stands; you can criticize and compare when it is a full game, which it is not.

          • Benjamin

            Come back here when it’s launched 😉

            • Brandon

              I’m doubtful I’ll remember this conversation next week let alone next quarter. I’m not saying the game will necessarily be any better when it launches; just please hold your criticisms of the game as a whole (as opposed to just the beta experience) until it does.

            • Benjamin

              Hold my criticism? Why the hell should I do that? The whole point of a beta is to point out the flaws. Which in this case are glaring. This whole attitude of letting things slide is why we end up with shoddy games.

            • Brandon

              I meant that you’re welcome to have your way with the beta, just don’t associate the beta’s performance with that of the final product, because even if it seems unlikely, a lot could change by then.

              Of course I ultimately can’t stop you from doing anything so this is a rather pointless conversation.

          • Fernando

            Agree

        • ckpinkham

          I haven’t had any lag and I average a 770kbps connection… 1.5mbps max. And none of my friends with better internet have had any issues either… so it’s not some bs lag compensation thing like in COD. You’re the first person I’ve seen complain about any of this.

          • Benjamin

            Check the forums. Check videos online. There are a tonne of people complaining about it. It’s almost common knowledge.

            • Dirkster_Dude

              Maybe it is your Internet Connection? It isn’t just about bandwidth.

        • Fernando

          Its just a server problem, you can’t say a beta is broken because its still in the works.
          Guess why they want as many people as possible to play Destiny this weekend?
          They said is for doing stress tests on the game servers.
          I hope they set dedicated servers on release so that people with not so good internet connection can play decently.

          I highly recommend you tweaking your router to get the best connection possible, opening ports for your console, etc..

          • Benjamin

            Don’t patronise me with the ‘check your connection’ bullshit. My connection is perfectly optimised for gaming. If you genuinely think the final game will be any different then you’re deluded.

            • Oblivion_Lost667

              I can’t speak from firsthand experience as I haven’t actually played the game, but what you’re saying rings true with most if not all of the competitive gameplay I’ve seen, Levelcap in particular was very noticeable, to the point of BF4 level if not higher, punching someone and waiting a full second to two seconds for them to die is NOT acceptable in this day and age, if this survives till launch, which I won’t be surprised if it does, with how netcode never seems to change in games over it’s dev cycle, I’d expect a pretty low player competitive, unless people pull a BF, again, and play it regardless of how bad it is.

            • Firm Like Mutton

              No patronizing here, but have did you open ports specifically for Destiny? I have, several of my friends haven’t and our experiences are polar opposites. I’ve experienced some mild symptoms of lag and the one evening that was horrendous was due to my wife and I competing for bandwidth as she streamed TV shows. Even on its worst day (at this stage), Destiny still appears to be far superior to CoD, for example, in terms of network stability

      • Peter Mcteague

        Servers tend to get worse after launch, by lowering the tickrate of the server so that more can be run on the same machine, so the hitreg will only get worse.

    • latch360

      I haven’t had this problem. Honestly. Maybe it’s your shitty internet. Idk

      • ckpinkham

        I get on average 770kbps connection… so it’d have to be massively shitty lol and even with my shitty internet, I haven’t had issues.

        • latch360

          Same here

    • latch360

      I’m guessing you complain about every multilayer game. I’m a fast paced player, pretty darn good at cod and Titanfall, okay at Halo. But with this game km starting to get the method to the madness. I was terrible at first but I’m starting to get it. If you’re such a savant of multilayer gaming then you have to give credit to one new feature that I haven’t seen anyone mention. Anyway, it’s people don’t spin in circles, you actually have to run around like a real two-legged species would have to. Trybit, it’s not a glitch or bad programming Benji…Anyways, I don’t see why you people bitch so much. It’s like politicians or their lambs, except it videogames. There is a positive side. If you don’t like it, then make the game s yourself. Word crimes, I know…I apologize

      • Benjamin

        What a load of nonsense. No I don’t complain about every multiplayer game. But the reality is, most modern mp games aren’t up to scratch. And when people turn a blind eye and accept what they’re given, we end up with BF4, a slew of terrible COD games, and Halo 4. The most stable multiplayer game I’ve played recently is surprisingly Titanfall.

        It’s exactly that kind of gamer apathy that results in gamers constantly being screwed. People try and make a stand, and are instantly undermined by morons spouting crap like ‘check your connection bro’, ‘it’s just a beta!’, ‘no problems here, must be you’. It’s infuriating.

        • Guest

          This is why games are dropping in quality, You point out the flaws and you are dubbed a complainer. We live in a society full of people with low standards. To me most of these people very little experience in MP games and don’t really know what a good MP game is,( my opinion),also most seem to be casuals which isnt bad but also to me means you dont know very much.

          • latch360

            They’re not dropping in quality in my opinion. You people just aren’t impressed no more, you’re used to to them is all.

            • Guest

              I’m not used to release broken patch later, make the game dumbed down to make $$$$

        • latch360

          I do agree with you about Titanfall. Anyway, how about you develop a game.

      • Oblivion_Lost667

        There’s a positive side? Sure, there’s a positive side to MOST games, but that doesn’t mean we start giving games like Two Worlds 2 10/10 reviews, Two Worlds 2 had a innovative magic system, that was it’s upside, but it had lackluster story, voice acting, and just about everything else.

        I hate to have to bring this into the subject, but look at the film industry, a positive side doesn’t save a movie from getting a terrible review if the rest of the movie isn’t good. Positive sides simply don’t make a game worth the money it charges, it has to carry through in at least MOST of it’s gameplay, not just some.

    • Fernando

      There are lag problems on PvP, it’s true, but it is because they don’t have dedicated servers for the beta, I’ve heard.
      For me.some matches are just unplayable while in others I do great.
      If we get dedicated servers on release there shouldn’t be any problem.

      • Benjamin

        I would wager you’ll get what you’re getting in the beta. Those are the servers they’re ‘stress testing’, so they’ll be the one’s they’re using.

        • Fernando

          There are many kinds of servers working for a game… But its ok, you are positive that there will be lag on the game, I’m not so positive about it because we have seen a beta.

          I really hope you are wrong, we will see.
          Still the game is so great in coop and single player mode that having a laggy PvP wouldn’t take me back from playing it, but it will be a big disappointment.

    • You Mad Bro

      I agree Destiny multiplayer is bad but it is decent. But if you are buying Destiny for competitive multiplayer you obviously have no clue what you are buying.

  • Tom Miller

    I get so tired of hearing about the whole PC elitist thing. I have a PS4 so I can sit my ass on a comfy chair after working all day and play some Battlefield with some friends, and get excited about the occasional clanmatch. Is the PS4 a huge leap from the PS3? Yep. I like having a comfortable 1080p display with around 60fps with a simple quick to use PS menu that pops right up.

    I don’t need to go full on virgin and spends thousands for 4k display and 100+fps then dick around with origin to find games.

    Gaming isn’t life for me. I’d rather go hit some ramps on the Honda anytime over gaming but 2nd shift doesn’t make that easy during the week.

    PC Elite Race? Yeah maybe in your bedroom. But I’m betting everyone using that stupid ass phrase is alone in that bedroom.

    • Samson

      Bedroom/office only for now. Pretty soon Valve is going to give the PS and Xbone some company in the living room

    • Zheka

      Pssst…You can use Xbox 360 wireless controller on PC. PC MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN!!!

    • uwantSAM0A

      Not sure if you meant bedroom/livingroom metaphorically but most pcs have hdmi ports that will let you plug into your living room tv.

      • andy

        Only PCs that are for a certain observant person has HDMI on it. I guarantee you 70% of PCs sold in PC World today, STILL have integrated intel chipsets without HDMI. Most mainstream folk wouldn’t spend more than €500 to €600 for a PC and these simply have no advanced graphics cards in them at all.
        So “most” PCs DON’T have HDMI ports, not the ones in retail shops and MOST CERTAINLY not the PCs sold in the last 6 years. Lol these models for mainstreams don’t even come with 1gb Ethernet ports, something that was in every single PS3 sold since 2006.

        • DanDustEmOff

          I don’ know what country you live in but almost every shop bought PC I have seen in the past 2 years has a dedicated card with 2gb DDR5. I still wouldn’t recommend one, anyone that knows anything about PC building would tell you to avoid them like the plague.

          • Anon

            You must not live in the states then because even walmart laptops have HDMI ports

            • DanDustEmOff

              Wrong person mate.

            • Anon

              Ah sorry bout that

        • Peter Mcteague

          Computers with integrated intel chipsets still have HDMI ports on the motherboards.

        • Anon

          You must not live in the states then because even walmart laptops have HDMI ports

    • DanDustEmOff

      Obviously consoles do have their pro’s, problem is that none of the things you listed are pro’s. I have a big ass comfy chair at my desk, but my system is also connected to my TV. I have a wireless pad and mouse and keyboard and can easily switch it on navigate to Steam and a game before a console has even finished booting up (SSD ftw).

      I have a family and other hobbies but gaming is one that I am also passionate about. However all the next gen systems are horribly underpowered imo, so for me the PC is the only real option for next gen gaming. Had these systems been any good I wouldn’t have hesitated in getting one. The reality is though these systems are now less powerful than a tablet.

      If you’re happy with your purchase then that’s cool it’s all about personal preference at the end of the day, but please don’t label us all as no life virgins. I have a decent amount of disposable income so I can afford to sink a few grand into a system, that doesn’t make me any sadder than anyone else.

      • This guy is dumb

        Yes because a Tablet can play Destiny. My god you must be the biggest false information provider I have ever seen. Thanks for the laugh.

        You wreak of PC fanboy butt hurt with no games. Well back to playing Destiny.

        From the get-go, we have a problem: The APU in the PS4 is unique. It pairs an 8-core Jaguar CPU with, essentially, the Radeon HD 7850. The best AMD APU currently on the market (the Richland A10-6800K) has about one third of the processing power of the PS4′s GPU. There are no 8-core Jaguar parts on the market — only the quad-core Kabini A6-5200, which is paired with an even weaker GPU than the A10. Kaveri, when it comes to market in January 2014, will be a closer match — but the PS4 will still have around twice the graphics grunt. In short, we’re forced to use a CPU and discrete GPU. It just got a lot harder to hit our $400 target.

        The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost – an option that isn’t available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. It’s important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3.

        Yes a Tablet beats this. LMFAO.

        • DanDustEmOff

          Dude the PS4 can’t even render BF4 at 1080p, 60 fps, Destiny only manages 30 fps, which is terrible for a competitive FPS. There may be 8gb of DDR5 but that supplies a 1.6 MHZ 8 core mobile CPU/GPU. Paint it however you want that is terrible.
          There are smart phones out with better processors, the Galaxy S5 can come with a 2.2, 8 core CPU, The new Nvidia Sheild tablet comes with a 2.2, 4 core CPU and 192 cuda core Kepler GPU able to support resolutions up to 1200p.
          If wreak of PC fanboy then the stench of PS4 fanboy coming from you can be smelt on the moon.

          • ProAssassin84

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUYn0Xqa3wM

            Notice how you can barely tell them apart. Bet you feel dumb.

            • DanDustEmOff

              Why on earth would I feel dumb? I have seen both the PS4 version of BF4 and own the PC version. “barely any difference” lol. There’s a Massive difference even at 1080p, now I’m gonna let the fact that you used a YouTube video at a piss poor bit rate as evidence slide, but is that really how you came to that conclusion?

              1080p has 2,073,600 pixels, 900p has 1,440,000 pixels and 720p has 921,600. So if you’re gonna say there’s no difference between the PS4 and PC then the same is true of the PS4 version and the X1. The PC can also run BF4 at 2k, 3k and 4k and that’s purely resolution, you also have better AA, occlusion, shadows, framer rates etc.. on the PC.

              I suggest that you read about Tegra K1 before making such bold and uninformed claims and calling people dumb. Of course I was talking purely about the power not the gaming performance, but even the gaming performance of mobile devices are fast catching up the “next gen” systems.

              “a rock solid 30fps blows BF4 out of the water” that comment shows how truly limited you are. 30fps is absolutely terrible on any game, displays are commonly 60htz meaning 30fps is half of what the screen runs natively.

            • Better be good

              What PC are we talking about? My PC? Your PC? My PC at work? This PC is always superior rubbish has to stop. All the PC’s most popular games are low end for a reason. League of Legends, Warcraft, Diablo, Minecraft, all the Chinese MMO’s & MOBA’s dominate the PC space because a vast majority are using generic laptops & desktops. That isn’t going to change in the short or medium term.

            • DanDustEmOff

              Mate.. You have copy and pasted that from another article. It doesn’t even make sense in the context of my reply. BTW slap a texture pack and shader pack on Minecraft and then tell me it’s low end.

    • dude

      wow this gave me a brain fart so much stupidity,so much misinformation such peasant.

    • Daniel Kenmar

      I consider myself a member of the PC Master Race. That said, I don’t plan on condemning anyone for their thoughts, and I also acknowledge that some people take it to unnecessary levels of elitism. But comments like the one you just made do nothing to close the void between PC gamers and console gamers.

      The fact that some people enjoy consoles because that’s what their friends play on is a perfectly acceptable reason to be a console gamer. Heck, most PC gamers would be lying if they said they don’t have at least one console around the house. (I know I would! I have a ton! Just not a PS4 or Xbox One. Yet. Maybe in the near future.)

      The point being made by the article is that if the only reason you’re gaming on a PS4 over a PS3 is for better graphics, you’d be better off getting a PC. He doesn’t take into account the social aspect though, which is a good enough reason to upgrade if that’s what your primary playgroup has moved onto.

      You DON’T need to go “full on virgin and spend thousands for a 4K display and 100+ fps” to enjoy the benefits of gaming on a PC. I’ve spent at most $600 on my current rig and it outperforms the PS4 and Xbox One @ 720p (which is the resolution most games truly play at on those systems, with a few 900p and 1080p exceptions here and there). It’s not the most powerful thing in the world, but I still love it. I get all the perks of PC gaming too, without the need for a $1000 GPU, $500 CPU, etc.

      My PC is also actually in my living room, near enough to my TV that I am indeed able to use an HDMI cable to put it up on the big screen. (The integrated graphics even have an HDMI port so I could still do it even if I didn’t have a graphics card.) So, nope. Not in the bedroom. If I want to game in the bedroom, I use my consoles or just use Steam In-Home Streaming to play on my cheap laptop.

      Also, my wife says hi from the bedroom! 😀

    • Richie Tellez

      I have a PS4 and PC. I dont really care what people brag about or what is “superior”. For me gaming is gaming. Dont care if i can play at ultra settings or not. Or 60fps vs 30fps. I liked all my purchases that i’ve made and worked hard for. You are so uninformed about alot of ur “pc remarks”. I know this is online and people can say shit and get away with it. But please dont be a dick. No one likes a dick, real life or here.

    • Andy

      Who built your Battlefield games? Nerds on PCs. Who built your playstation? Nerds on PCs. Who forged the FPS game genre? Nerds on PCs in their bedrooms. Who founded competitve clanmatches? Nerds on PCs in their bedrooms.

      You are so shortsighted you are incapable of showing some respect for the people that have afforded you this outlet. Fuck off with your stereotyping and bullshit.

      • Tom Miller

        Haha. Stereotyping? I’m sure your loser ass uses the phrase PC Elite Race don’t you. You and your hairy palms can fuck off?

        • Andy

          I don’t have a PC. I’ve never even heard the phrase PC Elite Race. Why would I have hairy palms?! It sounds like an insult from the fucking 1800s.

    • td90uk

      Here we go again, more people saying PC’s all cost $10,000,000,000 to buy and run. Wrong.

      Same crap as last gen “you don’t need 1080p/60fps”, this time it’s “you don’t need 4k/60fps+”. Rinse and repeat.

    • Skullking920

      You know you can hook a PC to your living room TV and use a controller. Also if you want you can get a portable desk and use a keyboard and mouse i am just saying that playing on a PC doesn’t mean your confined to a small desktop in the corner of some room. You can play in the living just like playing on a console.

    • Pampflet

      I understand your point totally. Consoles (referring to them as potatos from now on) are made for casual gaming, but when they have promised gamers who have bought these potatoes 1080p, and 60fps which they just cannot achieve, ever. It doesn’t matter what kind of software geniuses they have, the hardware inside these potatoes is inferior, to a pc that’s comparable in price.
      But hey, i’m not going to convert you, or feed you with the possibility to a more useful and a cheaper machine, which does the same, and more as a PS4. If you’re happy wasting 400-500 euros on fake promises it’s not my problem.

  • Dirkster_Dude

    Forza 5 on XB1 seems next gen to me. Updated graphics and A.I. (drivetar) that is only available because Microsoft cloud computing servers. The Order on PS4 might qualify. The graphics look like they could only be done on the PS4. The XB1 and PS4 each have more than 75 titles that should be out before the end of the year. Many of them are multiplatform and do seem like retreads of previous games.

    • Samson

      Microsoft cloud computing servers, Lol. You kids will believe any marketing buzzwords

      • Dirkster_Dude

        First, I’m not a kid. Second, I know what cloud computing is capable of and the fact that you don’t tells me you’re more interested in bashing the concept instead of seeing the possibilities. Third, “cloud computing” are buzzwords, but such capabilities have been around for long time. Basically, it is nothing more than clustered or distributed computing over the Internet. What Microsoft has done is try to use this concept to work with video games.

        • Great points. They even somehow made Samson’s comment disappear :O

          (Samson, you can stop commenting like that. Please. It’s getting annoying.)

  • SiftBlade

    Please, keep fueling the fights. Good job, IGN.

  • meds

    “when is this generation of consoles going to live up to the next-gen promise?” When it is financially viable for publishers and developers to create games exclusively for PS4/XB1/PC and leave 360 and PS3 development behind. We are getting some great games coming this Sept-Nov but most of them are cross gen as there are still too many people just with a PS3/360 to ignore that market. Unfortunately this is the price you pay for being an early adopter of technology. I am fine with that though and am extremely happy with my PS4. 2015 really seems to be the year where there is going to be a solid next gen library for both systems so hopefully more people jump aboard and the next gen promise can be realized.

    • ckpinkham

      Sadly M$ is supporting the 360 for 5 more years .-.

  • Cloud Flash

    While developers and publishers continue to keep catering to 8-9 year old hardware, it isn’t going to happen.

    I have my PC and have yet to see any compelling reason to buy into the next console generation – even as a die-hard fan of Halo, Uncharted and other exclusives.

    • mechcell

      I disagree, I played Crew closed beta for around 5 hours. The Crew feel so generic to me. FYI The Crew is only on PS4, Xbox one, and PC.

      • Dregonator

        So… what is your point?

        • Cloud Flash

          I don’t get it either. Wrong article?

  • yardis

    So what exactly is considered next gen? I only expected better visuals and a more stable frame rate. I got both when I bought my PS4. Anything extra is just icing on the cake.

    • ckpinkham

      A bit more innovation in AI and gameplay would be nice. Have you seen any of the info on Unity? That’s about what I wanted. Not just updated graphics… especially since these have what, 5 times the CPU power of last gen? And games are like 10 times the size?

      • yardis

        The AAA games that are coming out from fall to spring next year are all “next gen titles” in my book. I just don’t understand why people complain about there being no “next gen” games when they cannot even explain to me what a “next gen” game is. The new AC game is next gen like you said. I just want the people who are complaining about the lack of “next gen” games to explain what a game needs to be considered next gen.

        • ckpinkham

          Best definition I can come up with is just: a game that fully utilizes the new hardware, and actually feels innovative, impressive, and new.

          To clarify, this doesn’t mean the entire thing has to be something altogether different from something we’ve played before… I’ll use Unity to help elaborate. New graphics, new parkour system, new combat system, up to 5,000 AI on screen at once if I remember right? Which is like 5 times what they could do in 3/4. All still clearly recognizable as an AC game, but all improved and actually somewhat impressive, just by the sheer scale of improvements. 5 times the AI? That alone with the new graphics would probably make it worthy of the “next-gen” title. Then throw in the other things AND CO-OP?! Something unprecedented in the series… and boom, that’s my definition of next-gen. Unity.

          Bear in mind, Inquisition and Shadow Of Mordor claim to be bringing scale and details, and that they’ll actually utilize the power of the systems… I think the Nemesis system feels a bit gimmicky, and the free-climbing is way to Assassin’s Creed and the combat too Arkham… so I’m very skeptical SOM will be worthy of the next-gen title… but I’ve always been impressed by what Bioware did from one title in a series to the next. I feel Inquisition will innovate juuust enough to earn the title. But I probably won’t be really impressed until The Division, since it’s been built ground-up for next gen for like 5+ years… and the weather, real time lighting and shadows, particle effects, locational damage on cars and such based on where you shoot, not scripted damage… not to mention character animations, sound effects, regular graphics like the look of your gun or your hat… and some innovation to gameplay over Blacklist or Future Soldier which are probably the closest two games to The Division… well, let’s just say I was impressed from the reveal, which I think was 2013, maybe even 2012. And I’ve only gotten more impressed the more I’ve seen… and they’re still hiding like 99% of the actual game and stuff.

        • ckpinkham

          Man, I wrote a book as a response to this… but it seems my reply disappeared :/ and I’m not typing the whole thing again .-.

        • dj

          Yes all yhe good games are beginning to come out every game that came out with the next gen (current gen) whatever, was actually garbage if you think about it.

          • yardis

            I disagree with that. I have over 30 games on my PS4 and I have yet to play a bad game. Free games from plus have all been at the very least decent. The AAA games that I bought have all been great. Every single indie game I purchased has been great. Maybe your taste in games is really limited because the PS4 has some great games.

  • David

    I don’t think next gen is worth the money at all right now. The consoles should have been released next year. Giving companies more time. Instead like you said we are getting up scales versions of games we could have just brought on ps3/360.

    Also, things like party setting up, which used to be easy now seems like a laggy joke. Kinect was also a waste of money, Microsoft back tracked and now we have a kinect less Xbox something they said would never happen. I can’t even remember the last time I used kinect.

    Bring back the cod 4’s/ bfbc’s that had you going back for more and was fun to play, now I can happily not play my x1 fit a few days and not miss it

    • ckpinkham

      The problem is you went with Xbone. It really wasn’t worth going Xbone if you couldn’t wait until August basically. Especially since it may still not be worth it if you want some true next-gen, which will mostly come out in 2015. You could easily get Unity, Inquisition, and Shadow Of Mordor 6 months later if you have any interest in them at all… and by then, Xbone may be fixed. Still, with over 2 gigs less power… it’ll never look as good, or load game data as fast and stuff… unless they really get the cloud computing to work and you have fantastic internet. The ONLY benefit I can see from going with Xbone is the 300,000 servers they’re bringing up so they should have dedicated servers for basically every decent game. But honestly, I get less than 1mbps connection pretty much all the time, and only lag out like 5-10% of the time on my ps4. If I didn’t have one of the shittiest ISPs… I’d probably never notice any lag, even in the p2p games. Like Warframe. Idk what it is, but the ps4 connects better than my 360 somehow… cuz I lagged like a bitch on 360. Sometimes even when I was plugged in instead of on wireless. And I don’t plug in my ps4.

      • David

        I get what you are saying about waiting. Me and my mate have spoke about this. Funny though as before xbox one I had a ps3 and I actually miss it. Maybe after this year titles will sort to come out that warrant the price increase and the investment in a next gen console. For now we have to just enjoy what we have. Destiny certainly looks like the right direction. I played the beta last night, and enjoyed it a lot more then I thought I would

        • ckpinkham

          Tbh, I was a hardcore 360/Microsoft guy, even after the E3 blunder last year… but when it came down to it, PS4 has more power, and games will be able to not only look better, but have more AI on screen or whatever, on PS4. Unless of course the cloud computing thing really works out. And I think PS4 has slightly better exclusives (minus Halo) and all the multiplatform games will be slightly better on PS4. So I bought a PS4 in like, February or whatever. But I hope I don’t regret not going with Xbone for dedicated servers… If I lag like a bitch during Unity’s co-op or something… I’ll switch over. Sony really need to invest in dedicated servers for at least all the major titles imo… If COD gets dedicated servers on Xbone provided by Microsoft, and not on Sony… Sony’s gonna take a huge hit. Personally, I think COD sucks… but it’s pretty much the best selling game each year… so you gotta compete over COD basically. and then games like Destiny and The Division which would definitely benefit from dedicated servers. The only big multiplayer game you don’t need to compete over/invest in dedicated servers for, is Battlefield, because Battlefield comes with them lol.

  • ckpinkham

    Shadow Of Mordor… May have the free-climb of Assassin’s Creed and fighting of the Arkham games, but at least it’s going to be a good LOTR game for once and have a great story (supposedly)… so shame on you sir, for not even mentioning it. Should be at least as excited for that as another AC or COD. Plus, Dragon Age Inquisition looks like it’s going to redeem itself after 2. And both SOM and DA:I look to be quite massive. I’ll probably spend at least 100 hours on both, and at least 30 in Unity, even if I mostly just run around slaughtering guards with another assassin or two 😛

  • Witblitz

    PS4 is more like a PS3.5. Why do I say this? Well because I can run BF4 at full res with no scaling with decent level of detail on a i5 2500K overclocked, 560Ti. But the same game on the so-called “next-gen” Playstation I can hardly get 1080p out of it (900p in fact, upscaled) and it looks nowhere near what I’m used to on PC. Why did I do this? Destiny.

    • You Mad Bro

      BF4 is a five platform game and hardly optimized or even polished. Even on PC they are having massive problems keeping stable framerates. Hardly a great example of a next gen game. If you think BF4 is pushing the PS4 that makes me LOL.

      Destiny visually, technically and gameplay wise makes BF4 look very dated and terrible and it is just the beta.

  • roland0811

    And not a single large scale tactical shooter on the horizon for console. A damn shame.

    • Fernando

      Rainbow 6 ? It looks amazing

      • roland0811

        I said large scale, bud. Although the new Rainbow 6 does look like it might be decent.

    • jj16802

      I think Planetside 2 is coming to PS4.

      Sony should make a MAG 2.0.

      • roland0811

        I’m burned out on run ‘n gun shooters like Planetside and MAG. Wish Codemasters would stop sitting on the Operation Flashpoint franchise and sell it to someone who knows what they’re doing

  • uwantSAM0A

    Lets not forget that current-gen is considered ps4/xb1 while last gen is ps3/xb360. Next gen is something far beyond.

  • Krashman Von Stinkputin

    Another way to ask this question:
    Is Last of Us HD for PS4 a $400 better version than it was for the PS3?
    Was Titanfall $500 better than it’s 360 counterpart?
    Will the Master Chief Bundle on the now Kinectless-X1 be $400 better than my 360 copies I already own?

    I’ve been gaming since PONG on TVs and since my Tandy 1000EX on computers.

    This is the first generation of consoles that have come out that — after the excitement about the IDEA of new tech–have been completely UNDERWHELMING in execution..

    The answer to the above questions (for me at least) has been a resounding NO.
    Titanfall plays just fine on the 360–and I have a great time playing it (when my son lets me have a turn).

    Yes there is a visual difference between gens, but is that visual upgrade make a $400 difference? Do you have $400 worth of additional “fun”?
    Maybe others see that value.
    Great visuals will never and have never made an inherently bad game good.
    Great games are great irregardless of how they look.

    Thankfully I have that backlog of games I purchased but never got around to playing (The $15 used copy of Far Cry 3 is playing just fine on my 360 & just finished the God of War Trilogy).
    My biggest decisions in the near future will be should I finally play Skyrim or Dead Space next and do I buy Destiny for my PS3 or my 360?

    The $400 will get put towards my mortgage for now.

  • Brandon Stern

    I want to say that Battlefield 4 is next-gen in my eyes. It has 66 player wars with all sorts of vehicles on massive maps, the graphics are pretty awesome on consoles, and it runs at 60FPS.
    All of that is/was simply impossible on the 360 and PS3. Sure the game has been buggy, but from what I’ve seen on the Xbox One, it’s the only title that screams “next-gen”.

    • You Mad Bro

      Destiny makes BF4 look like pong visual wise.

      • Dregonator

        Destiny has much more stylized visuals. BF4 at its highest settings trumps even Destiny (which, due to the strains of optimizing for so many graphics cards to run on PC, will not be on PC, and will not ever be able to run at its best) if you are looking for realism. This may be true for consoles, because BF4 will never look its best running on an underpowered system.

    • Guest

      64 player maps, vehicles, good graphics have been around for 12 years. Its not nex gen, nex gen is creating a new experience for all gamers. These games dont have the flare as they did with ps3/360.PS2.xbox.

  • andy

    It sure happened last gen too during the first 6 months 360 was out. Games like Gun, Need for Speed Most Wanted and Fifa 06 all games that were on the current last gen consoles too (except the original Xbox, man they dropped that console like a tonne of bricks).
    Does the author remember the HD remaster of Bully, that was brought to 360, 1 year and a half later after the original release and this was 2 and a half years into the console’s life and all? Of course you haven’t a clue.

    • Sgt. Mofo

      There were some solid titles in the first 6 months like Fight Night Round 3, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, and Oblivion. Gears of War came out before the one-year anniversary of the X360. All solid titles making the investment worth it.

  • Retro

    Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Evolve, Shadow of Mordor, Titanfall (Yes it’s far better on X1 compared to 360) Lords of the Fallen, BF4 (as someone already mentioned and gave reasons for), NBA 2K14, The Order 1886, Destiny, The Golf Club, Far Cry 4, Sunset Overdrive, The Crew, The Evil Within, etc. Just to name a few. I’m good with this new generation of consoles and 2015 looks even better.

  • The Master Chief Collection = Enough reason to purchase an Xbox One.

    (And that’s not including Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Fable: Legends, Halo 5: Guardians, Crackdown, Phantom Dust, Gears, Scalebound, Through, Ori, Below, Evolve, Destiny, Tomb Raider, Alien Isolation, Far Cry 4, The Witcher III, Dragon Age: Inquisition, … (get it?))

  • sedii

    It must be hard to write an article so respect to your ability as a writer, your way more talented than me.

    That being said, I don’t like the last two topics of MP1sts opinion pieces, this one and the other one about timed exclusives sounds like you have a bleeding vagina that feels the need to bitch about things that are irrelevant. Yes, companies are looking to have exclusives and have a advantage against the competition, I’d love to have the Halo series on ps3, that doesn’t mean I should write an opinion piece expressing how butt hurt my vagina is about not getting my way, but lets get back to this topic. Yeah, the “next-gen” currently doesn’t feel any different than the previous generation but is anyone surprised? Xbox to Xbox 360 looked more or less the same for the first few years. Its completely normal, if your not happy then don’t buy the console until you feel the need to play a specific title.

    In the time being don’t stress about your vaginal pains, your worries will pass with the months to come. Have a nice day 🙂

    • notmadatall

      Can you re-word that without using the word ‘vagina’ or any derivatives?

      • sedii

        Yes, yes I could…

        • Dregonator

          Yeah, i just stopped reading when you went there…

      • Dregonator

        Yeah, i just stopped reading when he went there…

    • Sgt. Mofo

      There’s no need for the misogynous undertones of your comment. Displaying your close-minded opinion about women does nothing to further validate your opinion on the topic of videos games in general or the article itself. I’d encourage you to edit your comment by your own accord and pick a better choice of words. If not, feel free to establish your reputation here as a sexist so we can easily ignore and blacklist you going forward.

      Getting to your other comments, the increase in graphical fidelity and gameplay immersion took off much quicker from Xbox/PS2 to PS3/360 than 360/PS3 to PS4/X1. Xbox and 360 titles looked “more or less the same for the first few years?” Fight Night Round 3 looked leaps and bounds better than previous entries and introduced the very intricate slow-mo knockout. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter introduced the cross-com system, and introduced many gamers to the world of near future solider tech. Excluding horse armor DLC, Oblivion was an absolute must have for the sheer amount of depth not only in character customization but the world itself. Keep in mind as well all those titles came out in the first 6 months of the Xbox 360 launch. Gears of War had absurd amounts of gore and brought credibility to the third-person shooter genre, which got little to no respect the previous generation of consoles. Since you said “a few years”, don’t forget titles like Halo 3 came out with the Forge Mode as well as Dead Space, Modern Warfare, etc. I’m no doubt missing some, but its fair to say that the Xbox 360 had an impressive first year.

      • sedii

        SGT Mofo, as in mother fucker? Please change your misogynous user name that implies mothers should be fucked, thank you. I’d debate if my comment about a bleeding vagina is misogynous. I’m not belittling women, gender stereotypes, or placing women in gender identified roles. Rather, I’m referencing sex and biological aspects of genders. Yes, It was crude but misogynous? You do realize your user name is Sgt. Mofo.. I think its fair to call you a hypocrite.

        With reference to the Opinion piece on DLC, basically my point is having the game is better than it being a console exclusive. Its obvious that companies will try to have an advantage by obtaining exclusives, as they have always done so in the past. Why cry about it? If I write a Opinion piece about why Halo 3 should be on ps3 and how much more money it would make, most people would agree with me and they would also think I’m dumb for pointing out the obvious. Yeah, companies obtain exclusive to make money. Deal with it.

        The Xbox 360 launched Dec 10th 2005 and Halo 3 came out Nov 2007, thats about 2 years later. Fight night 3…. really? It came out 2006, was meh… I guess i could compare the new UFC game to fight night 3, my point is it takes time for great games to get developed exclusively for the “next-gen”. The market for current gen is way bigger and more profitable, why wouldn’t developers devote their resources to a cross-platform launch if they aren’t exclusive? Just wait a few more months and you’ll get your next gen games, just like the previous console cycles. Again, why write an article complaining?

        Anyway, the point being is that the last console cycle took about two years to have the “next-gen” feeling in the games, not to mention all the hardware failures that the 360 had. Anyone who has had a console knows that launch titles and the first year of games isn’t all that great, but I understand that mp1st feels they need to write articles to get views. That’s cool, just don’t lose your shit on me in the comment section because I point out the obvious.

        Thanks,
        misogynous out!

  • Dangerousjo 1985

    I think the xb1 remastered halo well look better then the ps4 remastered last of us..

    • Not_true

      That makes no sense considering PS4’s hardware is more powerful.

      • Dangerousjo 1985

        So. The game still looks better so far..

  • Dan Dorfman

    The assassin’s creed guys actually do make effort with each successive game. Year after year, the worlds have gotten bigger, the crowds larger and more realistic, the game mechanics more numerous and diverse, and the story more intricate. They aren’t spending single years on the development, these games take several of them to fully mature.

  • Fernando

    I think buying any console on release day is never worth it because experience tell us that every generation of every console so far gets mediocre games at release and they only get quality games that get the most out of the machine after at least 2 years after release, when developers have had time enough to learn how to squeeze out the potential of the systems…
    I think it won´t be worth to buy a Xbox1 or a PS4 until 2015 at least, which is precisely when the true next gen titles are coming out.

    Destiny could be an exception to the rule, but it will be released on past gen as well and it plays so amazing and looks so good on my old Ps3 that i won´t buy a PS4 untill I really need it, because Destiny on past gen is going to be so awesome that looking a bit better on PS4 its not worth the money YET.
    When more true next gen games come out then it will be another story…

  • El3

    “But if that was all players were looking for, wouldn’t they be just as content with a PC? ” I got a i7 PC that I paid $900 for and I cant run BF3 smooth at 720p. Players who are not on PC know it takes about $1500 or more to have a good enough PC to play the latest games at 1080p vs. the $400 console that you dont have to tweak. Its not that hard of a decision for me to make of what Im gonna choose

  • Brent Cousins

    What I don’t understand is why the rush to introduce a new console in an already console saturated market without any consideration for quality of content. knowing that all the so called next gen games won’t even be available for another year; if not longer. The best AAA games have already been released. It now appears a tread has emerged. Out of frustration developers are now opting for the less expensive; mediocre and more rudimentary, Retro style type of game design. I don’t see this as next gen anything. For me this is two steps backwards!

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