PC and Wii U Version of Grand Theft Auto V Only “Up For Consideration,” According to Rockstar

Rockstar Games discusses the state of Grand Theft Auto V on the PC and other platforms like the Wii U.

As of right now, Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto V is expected to drop Spring 2013 on both the Xbox 360 and PS3 with the PC and Wii U versions only “up for consideration,” Rockstar’s Dan Houser recently told IGN.

“That’s all I can give you,” he continued. “The main thing is we are not… we are a third-party publisher. We’re not Nintendo, we’re not Sony, we’re not Microsoft. We love all of them in different ways. But we can do what we want wherever there’s the appropriate business opportunity and chance to find a market.”

According to Rockstar, their developers are perfectly comfortable with the current generation of hardware.

“Some other people talk about the limitations of the [current] hardware. We don’t feel there are that many limitations. We feel we can do some very impressive stuff and do it for a large audience. This felt like the way… There’ll be a much larger audience on PS3 than there will be on PS4.” He added, “we didn’t sit there saying, ‘We’d like to do this in the game, but we can’t.’ There’s plenty of power in these machines.”

Obviously, this is a bit concerning for PC and Wii U gamers hoping to be able to experience Rockstar’s latest epic on their platform. Are you one of them? What do you think?

Thanks, PCGamer.

In other GTA V news, Examiner reports neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 version will be considered the “lead platform.” Each version is being developed simultaneously.

  • GTV:5 Need to be on the PC! I can’t get enough of watching Cops mod on GTV:4

  • Mike

    Translation: Too much piracy on PC for a GTA V “console port” to be viable.

    • asgaro

      Sure, that’s why Rockstar games like GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, GTA IV, Max Payne 1, 2, 3 and LA Noire all came to PC, right?
      I agree that there is piracy on PC. And that the amount of pirating is still a lot higher than piracy on consoles, but that doesn’t mean every PC game gets sold with a loss.
      Have you heard of Steam and other download services? It’s very, very popular and more and more PC gamers are moving to legal platforms like this one.
      As far as I can tell, I’ve noticed that devs are putting more attention to PC gaming the past few years, which is always a good thing!

    • Oblivion_Lost667

      Each pirated copy =/= a potential sale. It’s rather obvious that there’s still profit to be made on PC, otherwise we would have little new games coming to PC.

  • FusionNebula

    What the fuck? The PC should be the main one, come on Rockstar!

    • the PC hasnt been the main console for GTA since GTA SA sold so well for PS2 at least that’s my opinion.

    • Alkanida

      Reason #1 why PC-Players are not liked by the gaming community – Elitism:

      1.) No on except the devs decide which platform is main one.

      2.) Rockstar earns nothing with PC Versions (They probably spend more than earn)

      PC Players need to get a grip. There would be no fucking games without consoles. I’m not saying we are better, but we are the reason why DEVS have the money to develop more great games. 80% of PC Players dont even buy the game the download it. On top of that, buying a goddamn russian key off ebay is not helping them out at all.

      And you’re asking yourself why they only “think about” a PC Version?
      PC bitch pls…

      • Niosus

        The situation is nowhere nearly as bad as you think it is. Piracy has gone down dramatically compared to sales numbers. Practically every single developer who can is starting to embrace the PC more and more again.

        Rockstar makes money with PC versions of their games, but in a different way and pace as on consoles. On consoles you got a big launch and you try to sell as much copies as fast as you can before your game gets taken of the shelves. On PC the initial surge is a lot smaller, but it keeps selling for years. GTA4 went on sale during the Halloween sales last month on Steam. It got top 3 in the most selling list during that. That’s not something you do by selling just a few copies. That’s tens of thousands of copies that otherwise wouldn’t have been sold. And this happens every time it goes on sale for at least 2 or 3 years now. And that’s the crappy port that GTA4 is. Imagine if they’d actually release a decent version. They wouldn’t make as much as on the consoles, but it would certainly be worthwhile.

        If you can’t make money on PC as a developer you’re doing something wrong. Plenty of people buying plenty of gamed and plenty of developers making plenty of money. Anyway I still think GTA5 will come to PC, but just a bit later. Their last 2 games (LA Noire and Max Payne 3) had decent DX11 PC ports and got good reception. It would be weird to upgrade all the tech and expertise for smaller games and then not using it for your flagship game.

        • Alkanida

          I dont see or hear anything about PC Gaming going forward.
          So gta4 for pc sold well during holiday? it was a bargain wasnt it?
          tens of thousand of copies sold…wow, ps3 or xbox is doing that in pre order numbers each…prolly even 10x more
          How is rockstar earning anything with gta 4 being priced at what, 20 bucks on steam?
          I can totally understand why rockstar doesnt want this to end like gta4.
          It costs shit ton of money to port a game to pc and their income from pc games cant get it in.
          I still think that pc gaming is a minus-business for devs.

          Look at bf3, even though the pc version was 10x better, people still bought it for consoles.

          I hope that rockstar is not going to release this for pc simply to show y’all pc gamers that you are not lucrative enough for them.

          • asgaro

            Yes, on Steam there are lots of sales. But the developers allow these bargains because: Steam is a BIG advantage for game developers. They don’t have to print disks, don’t have to transport disks to stores, they can provide patches for free (while it costs money on consoles because they need to pay a lot to Sony/MS for each patch). They don’t need to advertise elsewhere online because the story page IS the first page you see when you launch Steam.
            So they cut out the middle man. 🙂

            Regarding BF3: you can see real-time player counts at http://bf3stats.com/ (on the left). I check this page sometimes and I’m glad to see that the PC crowd is keeping up. So maybe the PC version didn’t sell more although it was better, it still gets sold enough 😉

          • Niosus

            Hmm. If you don’t see PC gaming going forward then you’re doing something wrong. Steam has doubled in size every year for the past 7 years in a row. The thing is the most popular games on PC aren’t multiplatform games but exclusives. On the “shooter” front you have Tribes Ascend, Blacklight Retribution, TF2, DayZ, Planetside 2 right now. With ArmA 3, The War Z, Shootmania, Warface, HAWKEN and many more coming up soon. I’m sure I’ve missed a few good ones.

            On the MOBA front you got the 2 giants LoL and Dota 2 battling it out. Dota 2 isn’t even out yet but already is the most played game on Steam. LoL has 15 million active accounts.

            MMO: The latest WoW expansion actually made the game a lot better again, making WoW reach 10 million subscribers again for the first time since 2009. so WoW and Guild Wars 2 are having a big battle as well. Still got plenty of F2P MMOs to choose from if you’re in a cheap mood. There are a few really good ones that went F2P like Star Wars: The Old Republic.

            Do I have to keep going? Notice that I just mentioned the big exclusives. I didn’t mention kickstarters, indies and mods not because they’re not worthwhile but because the list would become too long. Add to that every multiplatform title coming out (minus GTA5) and I think it should be pretty obvious that PC has become a very nice platform for both developers and gamers.

            About the going on sale: I bought the complete GTA collection for 10 euros. That’s everything from 1 to 4 including DLC. I actually already owned most of it, but not on Steam so I decided to buy it again. That’s a sale that would NEVER have happened otherwise. Making your games cheaper actually increases the revenue. If you do a 50% price cut but you sell 4 times as much you made twice as much money. In most Steam sales you’re not looking at 4x the sales but actually it’s closer to 10x. Publishers set their own prices even during the sales. They wouldn’t participate if it didn’t pay off.

            In the end it’s all up to Rockstar, but I just think that a lot of fans will feel betrayed. No matter how you look at it, GTA4 sold several millions of copies on PC as well. That’s several million fans who are looking forward to the next part but can’t get it. And that’s excluding the effects that mods can have on publicity (take a look at Arma 2 if you’re wondering what a mod can do)

          • Oblivion_Lost667

            The chances are high that it will come to PC at some point, sooner or later. The demand for it is obviously high enough to gain a fairly good profit, otherwise GTA IV, LA Noire, and Max Payne 3 never would have made it to PC.

            The point that people bought BF3 for console (I believe it even sold better on consoles) just means more people.play consoles, not that it’s not profitable on PC as well, even if it’s not AS profitable, still does not mean it’s not profitable.

            By not giving PC players their own copy, or a shitty port version, they’re losing out on sales and have their game gather bad publicity. (PC players tend to be a very vocal lot, which means if they’re talking bad about the game, chances are they’ll lose at least some number of sales out of it.)

      • asgaro

        Earning nothing with the PC version, is very exaggerated. Because tell me: if the PC platform is so bad for sales, why keeps Rockstar porting their games to PC? Apart from Red Dead Redemption (which was made by Rockstar San Diego which never puts games on PC), all other titles come to PC.
        That means: all GTA’s and all Max Payne’s have come to PC till this day. LA Noire, too.
        I agree that piracy on PC is still a lot bigger than on consoles. I find this very sad.
        But more and more gamers are noticing the platform Steam and others like that. Steam is doing very well, it’s really insane. So I’m sure Rockstar and any other dev is making profits from PC games.

        As far as I can tell: PC gaming is going uphill! The last few years I notice there is more attention shifting to PC gaming, which is a good thing. 🙂

        • Oblivion_Lost667

          The piracy may be higher, but the piracy numbers are all considered potential sales on PC, while the truth is a lot of the people who pirate games don’t have the money to pay for the game, or simply would not have bought it anyways. It doesn’t make it right, no, but it doesn’t mean that EVERY pirated copy of a game is a loss of money for the developer or publisher.

  • ButteredBread

    So this means that even if it does come to pc they won’t make a huge effort with it and it will be another awful port. 🙁

  • gtabird

    Working with older hardware is the reason for developers learning new tricks and tweaks as it is now. I think some of the things accomplished on the 360 and PS3 as of now is amazing. Some examples:
    BF3 with 24 players large scale maps and hd destruction Air Land and Sea Vehicles
    Forza Horizon with Extremely detailed cars and open world enviroment with day night cycle
    Red Dead Redemption with its enviroment weather and day night cycle

    As for the PC guys, that sucks. I always thought pc was easy to port to and develop for therfore was kinda a” give me”.

    • Oblivion_Lost667

      The tweaks and tricks they’re doing are awesome, but it’s going to come to a point rather quickly where it will NOT be comparable at all to the PC, at the rate technology is advancing.

  • noname

    WHAT THE FUCK?? PC into consideration?? THE FUCK?? sure the Wii U can be into consideration, but no PC version?? MY ASS…

    • Oblivion_Lost667

      How is the Wii U a different case than PC? The Wii U deserves it just as much as PC does, unless for some reason the Wii U is harder to develop on than PC.

  • Fuck nintedno!

    They jaded 3rd party devs for years!

    taking most of the money, and fucking the devs.
    I really hope R* don’t give into them fools.

    only let this game be on open platforms, Ps3/360 and PC.

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  • Jack

    COME ON! I’m probably never going to get a good enough PC to play GTA 5, but I still love to see all the mods. THE MODS ARE USUALLY THE BEST PARTS OF GTA!

  • 3DArtist

    That`s one of the reasons why i don`t respect Rockstar!

  • people getting mad over nothing like children. obviously they will release it more than likely a year later.

  • Matt

    They’ll make the Wii U version before the PC version, I understand that they want to make as much profit as possible. But if they made less console ported like games on PC and made a decent game/port like BF3/Black Ops 2 or even Need For Speed Shift. Black Ops 2 is 10x more optimised then what MW3 was for me, I don’t see why Rockstar can’t take the lead and fix this. There will always be a bigger market in console games because of younger kids etc. I just feel cheated that I purchased GTA IV on release for $100 AUD to find out it was a really bad console port, I couldn’t play it for years due to my hardware being unable to run it unlike the packaging said.

    Pick up your game Rockstar,

  • Tower Defender

    So with PC being in consideration, is it safe to assume that all the screenshots we’ve seen so far is for console?

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  • Alex

    As far as I’m concerned, they might aswell not even release GTA V if they are planning to release a crappy port like GTA IV, meaning that ONLY high-end gaming computers are going to be using really powerful shit like Nvidia Titan and Gulftown will be able to get a playable experience out of it. Frankly, the really stable and optimized PC release of Max Payne 3 did NOT wipe my skepticism off – Rockstar Games have yet to prove themselves capable.

  • maximus404

    Gta v on Wii u could save the system and with the touch screen think of the possibilies? Do it rockstar I will buy the game again!