Why the Xbox One Needs to be Online

At this point, it’s pretty clear that Microsoft’s PR team for the Xbox One is doing damage control.  With nearly two months of overwhelmingly negative customer feedback at their front door, spokespeople doing nothing but confusing everyone about the Xbox One’s confusing DRM and used games policies, and competitors lapping up praise for not really doing much of anything, Microsoft is feeling the pressure to change.  Unfortunately, it seems unrealistic to think they can change much about the Xbox One.

The major point of contention for the Xbox One is it’s 24-hour check in cycle.  Don’t have internet to make that daily check in with?  No Xbone for you!

The reason Microsoft can’t remove the check in requirement is simple, it’s the only way to guarantee every Xbox One will be online.  An online Xbox One can download ads, enable netflix playback, and get customers shopping on the XBL Marketplace.  All these things are massive cash crops for Microsoft and when you throw in games requiring cloud computing to run, you have a company that has backed themselves into a corner with no way out.

The Xbox 360 Kinect wasn’t the popular device Microsoft had hoped it would be for one simple reason: Install base.  Kinect sales stagnated very quickly and this led to developers dropping support for it almost immediately.  There were no really amazing games for the Kinect and the homebrew community made better use of it than Microsoft did.  So with the Xbox One, Microsoft, in requiring both a Kinect and internet connection for every console sold, is guaranteeing to developers that any and all features possible with the Xbox One system will be available to every user.  This leads to more digital transactions which means more money per-sale which means more income for Microsoft.

Now, don’t take this the wrong way.  Microsoft is as much a capitalist company as Sony or Nintendo and there’s nothing wrong with that.  While yes, it might mean that they prioritize profits over customers, Sony at least has proven that they understand making products all their customers can use and enjoy is the best way to make a profit.

In the end, Microsoft has misjudged their customers or, at the very least, isn’t thinking of all their customers.  There are millions of Xbox 360 owners without internet that have lost their upgrade path thanks to the very company making that upgrade a reality.  While some might argue that Microsoft is doing this because it’s eventually going to become the norm, I believe they’re doing this because it’s the most profitable way to do it.  If they had taken just a little more care, I think they could have avoided this disaster of a PR campaign, but then again, removing the online requirements would make most of the Xbox One’s new features totally useless to developers.

What do you think?  Is Microsoft doing something smart by embracing the future, or is their pursuit of profit driving them to create products that millions of customers can’t use?

  • awkenney

    I’m not sure how Microsoft thinks they are going to sell the Xbox One as much as they’d like. That’s about all I can say.

    • Jason

      Well here is my OPINION, They need to stay confident, they will make it right! I wish most people knew that the Gaming Industry has been in a decline over the past few years, Microsoft is helping in a big way to correct that whether we like it or not! Some of you like most of the world want things handed to you and get butt hurt when you have to pay for something or get privileges taken from you before stopping and thinking, Why?, WE DID THIS, I went and bought Far Cry 3, I let 8 different friends borrow that game before I traded it in for the next consumer to do the same. I have friends who are PC only gamers who download games left and right for free from torrents, and we wonder why DRM and 24 hour checks are the new thing?! Developers and Publishers alike are fed up with this and WANT their money, so we are to blame, and if you are smart enough to see why this is happening then good for you, if not and if you try to argue with me about it then you are one of those “Hand me Outs” I mentioned earlier and could care less about supporting your favorite Dev or the Gaming industry as a whole.

      • Michael Frame

        Booyah! You nailed it! I agree 100% I don’t care about the sign in. I have had internet for five years now with the same company and only once has it went out. I know you still can’t play If you don’t check in but like Microsoft said, it takes kilobytes of data and you can use your mobile network to check in.

      • awkenney

        It’s the PS4 @ $399 which imposes few restrictions over current gen VS XB1 @ $499 which includes restrictions and features over the current gen that gamers don’t want. That’s reason enough to pass on the XB1.

        • Guest

          All paths lead to Xbox One owners getting Xbone’d.

        • Xbone’d

          All paths lead to Xbox One owners getting Xbone’d.

          http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/xbox-flowchart.jpg

          • Ryan Schulze

            This is brilliant!

        • killzoner

          Why do you people look blindly on what you get with these prices. The extrac 100 for the Xbox is for the Kinect feature which is definitely much better than the eye that will sell for add 50 for PS4. So it is more like Xbox with kinect 499 compared to PS4 with eye for 449.

          • Zoot

            Don’t forget the year of xbox live for free. Add in the PS plus requirement to play multiplayer games and the Xbox One comes out cheaper than the PS4

            • SAM0A

              Not all games will require a PS+ subscription. Not all people need a gimmicky camera.

            • B_Boss

              If XBL comes with a yearly subscription (with XB1) free then that is a damned great deal lol.

          • B_Boss

            The price for the eye is perfect given that it isn’t mandatory nor will many people use it in relation to say…the controller, etc. Even if the eye came bundled with the PS4 it would probably come at 460ish, still more likely less than the XB1 if we’re talking price points.

    • zakrocz

      Tbh I think they will be just fine as most of their sales are in the US and Europe where household Internet usage is now the norm for most people and if you can afford to buy an expensive console in the first place then I am sure you will have Internet access through your house or on your mobile phone.

  • http://Www.pselectronicsrepair.com/ Lrishjake

    What the problem is is two things.. profit, and profit. Microsoft built a less than standard next-gen system that requires online just to operate properly, simply because it cost them less to do so. In the end, the only consumers that will buy an Xbone are the ones that have no clue what they are buying, or have more money than they need to care about and dont mind either way.

    • TriPpKinGs

      Its still going to sell like hotcakes and people KNOW what its capable of, which why they will buy it. The only thing that is wrong with this console is that its ahead of its time.

      • http://mp1st.com/ David Veselka

        Yeah, MS *might* be on to something here, but its definitely at the cost of severe growing pains. Who knows? 10 years later we might be like aww yeah X1 > PS4. Just sayin’, we don’t know :)

        • ReeceGators

          Are you going to get both David? I’ll probably get X1 due to friends buying it

        • TriPpKinGs

          I agree. They are bound to lose a lot of their die hard fans.

        • dpg70

          Oh, I fully expect the PS5 to have these same restrictions. Now, if in 6 years we’re seeing new releases on Xbox at $40 as opposed to $60 on other platforms because of the resale-proof nature of the console then I’m with you. I just have a hard time believing that will ever happen.

      • QwietStorm

        You can’t say with ANY amount of certainty that it’s ahead of its time. It could crash and burn, and nobody may follow suit ever. It sure as hhell isn’t ahead of its time with the ridiculous policies they have in place, and I’m not even specifically talking about the online check-in.

        • ThtJstHapnd

          Ummmm. Itunes and App stores and steam have proven it will NOT crash and burn.

          • QwietStorm

            What does that have to do with anything? This is a new product. I’m not talking about similar services. I’m taking about the success of this product. iTunes lol.. that proves the Xbox One will succeed? What?

            • ThtJstHapnd

              MS is looking to the future of always online and no discs. They just can’t do it now cause people would freak out even more than they are now.

              I’m referring to the “ridiculous policies” you speak of. If you want to be more specific then please do and I will explain why they are not ridiculous.

              DRM has been around through app stores and music for a long time. Checking in to validate music, stream updates, so on and so one. it’s a digital world and when the apple app store can sell a digital game and it can break download records in 24hrs it’s a no brainer thats what people like.
              1.minecraft on xbox broke records, now state of decay just broke records. BOTH digital downloads and both do NOT have a disc but no one is batting an eye about buying them. Second the Kinect is in Guinness book for fastest selling accessory. The fact it wasn’t implemented meant a lot. It wasn’t used to its full potential, now everyone that gets a one will have a kinect. Now it will be used. I can go on and on with examples if you would like.

            • QwietStorm

              You can go on with all the examples you want. It doesn’t matter. Nothing needs to be explained to me, and it has nothing to do with whether a game is digital or not. I don’t care about Minecraft. State of Decay is cool. I sure as hell don’t care about Kinect. Fact is, those games sold because they were perceived to be good games. They aren’t available on disc. So, breaking digital download records is pretty meaningless, is it not? A game is going to sell regardless of what medium it’s on. The problem people have with the Xbox One is being forced to deal with its approach. I have to pay extra for this camera that has to be plugged in at all times, even though I am never going to use it. I’m forced to check in online, even if I don’t pay for your gaming service (half their current subscriber base). They determine who I can lend the disc that I paid money for to, or whether or not I can do it at all. A large percentage of countries aren’t even able to support the console itself at launch or the foreseeable future. And the biggest problem with all of this, is that it trickles down to consumers who say things like breaking Guinness world records and telling others what the people like, as if the people who bought shovelware represents the whole. All it does on the end is tell company a, b, and c that it’s ok to control every single one of us and our habits with the products we buy, and not a damn is given about it.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Your opening statement is correct. “It doesn’t matter” If it doesn’t matter then why are you complaining about anything. Complaining means you want a reply, I reply and you say you don’t care. So your original post shouldn’t have been posted on the internet but told straight to a brick wall where no one could hear you or reply.

              I understand that you don’t care about minecraft, I don’t believe I said you did. I was referring to the fact millions of people go digital. I’m going to go out on a limb and say BOTH consoles will push heavily on digital within the next year. My point of that is MS is already taking the steps to go that way and Sony is doing this prance around the topic thing. One of the ps4 ads even shows a always online console where the guy buys a game digitally and plays with a friend. Why would they promote used games on stage then make an ad where there is no used game to sell? Oh because they used a well placed buzz word and great sales pitch to grab peoples attention. I wouldn’t expect the average person to be able to realize anything I have just stated, because Sony did the right thing to pull in all the sheep. It was a great move.

              Now back to the kinect. Have you used it? Have you tried it? Have you used the new one? If you have done all that and then say you don’t want it then guess what it comes down to… Xboxone is not for you. I am stating facts, I’m speaking of numbers and data, and all you have to say is “I sure as hell don’t care about Kinect” Thats just you. exactly one person. There are millions out there that spoke with their wallet when they rushed out to buy a kinect. It really comes down to business and both companies are doing great things for their business. Your single person this and that kind of mentality isn’t the kind that builds a multi million dollar corporation.

            • QwietStorm

              You purposely took “I don’t care” out of context so you could argue further. Of course I care about the topic. That’s why we’re having this discussion. Obviously you read what I said, so you should have seen exactly what it is that I said I don’t care about. Again, nobody is complaining about digital games. That isn’t even the problem, and it has nothing to do with used games. Used games refers to physical discs. Of course Sony has digital versions. Again, not the issue. I don’t have to use the new Kinect to know I don’t want it. I don’t play motion games and I don’t care to talk to my console. *If* it were just me, then you would have a point. But I’m going to assume you know there are a lot of people who feel the same way. But you’re going to brush them off as sheep. Obviously there are people who are going for it. That doesn’t make up the whole, and nobody can sit here right now and say it will work out because they’re looking to the future. *If* it is shunned because of the same “benefits,” then it was all for naught. But I, and others, are not going to go all in just based on a proposed inevitability.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Ok so I don’t need to go on when you said “You can go on with all the examples you want”? I don’t understand…. whats your complaint then?

              How many people freaked out when cameras were included with their cell phone. Many said “I don’t need a camera on my phone!” Many people complained when Iphone came with all the capabilities of a computer, phone, and camera. Now that the smoke has settled MOST of the world can’t go without their connected device more than an hour without freaking out. Oh and I forgot to mention people talk to their phone(siri) everyday…

              I’m understanding YOU DON’T want any of this. I will say, thats right now. I recommend you go with PS4 then, and wait till next year when you wish you would have gone with the next gen and not just an upgraded version of last gen.

              Peace out.

            • QwietStorm

              “I recommend you go with PS4 then, and wait till next year when you wish you would have gone with the next gen and not just an upgraded version of last gen.”

              Rofl done.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              So your saying done as in your going to get the Ps4 then wish you would have gone with a true next gen system(XboxOne), and not just an upgraded ps3… Thats great I won’t have to deal with all the sheep on Xboxlive.

            • QwietStorm

              No, what I was saying was that silly ass contradictory statement pretty much ended the discussion. Keep hurling out insults though. I hope it’s helping your cause somehow.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              My cause is to correctly inform people that the crap they are spewing is not true. I do not wish to converse with you anymore. You got my point cause you gave up so easily.

    • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

      Less than standard? The console itself is fine it’s the policies behind it that are “less than standard.” Cloud computing is a great concept in itself and there are other games already using it. Tera Online is I think. But I’d only need online when i want to play this particular game because its an MMO, I can’t see why they, Microsoft force it into every game even singleplayer. Were or not for the checks, despite my ability to meet the requirement via my home internet as well as smartphone tethering to my carrier’s network(I live on rural South Carolina mind you with decent internet for what it’s worth.)I’d buy the Xbox One first, but I’m not. It’s going to have to wait until a price drop. Paying $500 for a console and then 1 or 2 on launch games doesn’t feel worth it when I can buy an slightly more powerful console and the same 2 games for more or less the same price add the Xbox One alone

    • ReeceGators

      Or people whose friends are on Xbox, or people who want good exclusives, or people who are looking forward for the future of Kinect, Or people who want to instantly share Digital copies of games with up ten friends using the Family Share plan

      • Bryan Crain

        I love this ” people who want good exclusives” thing I keep hearing. I have played exclusive on both system and can objectively tell you that Sony has this hands down. On the other hand I am interested to see how this game sharing turns out but I have a feeling given all the DRM that is built in that MS will not give everyone a backdoor to share all of their games with the world, but who knows at this point

        • zakrocz

          Share with 10 people anywhere in the world is not the same as share with the whole world which is currently how pirated games work on chipped consoles

        • ReeceGators

          The ONLY PS exclusive i have ever enjoyed was Motorstorm haha, that game was the bomb.com, I love Halo, Gears, Dead Rising, probably TitanFall, Sunset overdrive, Spark, and definitely Forza

    • ThtJstHapnd

      FYI I have every detail that has been released so far and I will be staying up to date on all information released. I also do not have more money than what I care for. I am just well educated, have looked everything up, and decided that XboxOne is the best system for me. I can name many many reasons main one is because I live in a digital world and as you are right now, I’m online. I use the internet to my advantage. Anyone online complaining about needing to be online is just pathetic.
      1.always up to date
      2.I get a $200 kinect for $100 more than the ps4… my kids love it, I can skype, I can stream to twitch without needing a computer and capture cards.
      3.Checking every 24 doesn’t matter cause mine will always be connected, now I wont have to swap discs ever??? Awesome!
      4.Cloud is not required for the system. But since each system will require online it will be in use a lot. 300k servers, dedicated servers for all my games? Ummmm I’m all for that. I’m tired of p2p. Now my Xboxlive i’m paying for dedi servers.
      5.The system is not less that standard. Why must people throw out opinionated nonsense. Where are the guidelines that show what a next gen system should be? One of the things people throw out if the ram. 3 vs 5. 3 processes smaller sized textures faster, 5 runs bigger textures slower(from what I have learned by reading). That means smaller details can run more fluidly on xbox but ps4 can run big textures more detailed. Means exactly NOTHING TO YOU OR ME!

      your first comment shows you have no idea. when you said profit profit… ummm thats the point in all business today profit. Please I want you to start a business not looking for a profit and see how long you last. I don’t get your point or “facts”.

  • sd94

    The reason it’s always online is so they can enforce this bullshit about “game licensing”. Screw that, I paid $70 for a physical copy of the game, it’s my property now. I should be allowed to do whatever I please with it, not what Microsoft so graciously allows me to.

    • ReeceGators

      60$ actually and they haven’t said you cant sell a game or buy a used one.

      • sd94

        With taxes it’s closer to $70.

        • ReeceGators

          What country has 16% sales tax. Damn I don’t want to live where you live

          • sd94

            12%, comes out to about $67.19. All because the province of British Columbia are a bunch of idiots who tossed out a tax because they didn’t like the way it was implemented, when it was set to drop to 10% in the coming months.

    • born2expire

      welcome to the 21st century, we don’t own anything anymore.

    • XFistsClenchedX

      You realize that you have never been able to do what you want with intellectual property, right?

      • B_Boss

        You can actually but some choices are better than others morally and financially speaking.

      • sd94

        I didn’t mean the intellectual property. I’m talking about the game itself, the disc. I own that disc, it’s mine to keep, share, sell, etc. Xbox One has decided to add a bunch of stupid hoops to jump through and make the entire process a pain in the ass.

    • ThtJstHapnd

      In all reality this is the main problem with people today. Read the manual. Read the licensing. You have NEVER owned music, movies, or games. You have owned the .20 cent cd or dvd they are on but never owned the actual game. GameStop and any other store doing used games have been stealing for a long long time.
      Like I said about reading before, you should read the guidelines for the one and for 4 again… they both come down to “up to developer”
      Trading and selling are all possible and if you used gamestop it will be exactly the same as what you do right now. I wish people would read more and do more research before spewing so much nonsense.

      • B_Boss

        …and yet Gamestop gets away with it lol…and they scored big time with PS4′s announcement…..you say you wish people would read more before spewing nonsense…..well I guess I should read more at times but there is one good study I recall that was done to show that the used game market actually puts money into the ecosystem moreso than harming it.

        • ThtJstHapnd

          I know it does. And just as your other post said, we need to wait and see how it pans out. You don’t know and I don’t know. How do we know Gamestop and best buy don’t have a contract with MS for this new system. We don’t know how easy or hard it will be. It’s going to involve moving forward, cause standing still and staying the same gets you no where.

          • B_Boss

            Well Sony has actually done both which is pretty interesting…”Moving forward” may not be the same for you many others as it is for MS or even Sony. If Gamestop is a big thief then they should be prosecuted…..but then again lol….

            MS’ policies for XB1 will allow for trading but it will not be the same in some respects as Sony’s Disc-based trading/reselling model. Now, trading and reselling Sony’s digital content? That I can’t wait to see…

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Both have moved forward you are correct. I can’t keep repeating, that your opinion is not the same as mine. You genrally like sony and their ways and you are in their “sights” as a consumer.

              You took my words out of context and made it into another argument. The gamestop being thieves. Being prosecuted…. thats just another attack. So you make a song. Put it on a disc and sell it. Someone sells your music and gets a profit but you don’t. You wouldn’t be mad? If you wouldn’t then I will always do business with you. Thats a great way for me to make money, I can just get you to do all the work then I can just sell all your stuff for a profit and keep you out of it. Just like gamestop has. It’s not that difficult to understand IF, and I repeat IF you can remember that moving forward takes leaving your old mentality behind. Some people just don’t want to, and thats fine. If your like that ps4 is for that person. Now with that said. When everything comes out and is said and done. People will see the benefits and plusses, you can’t see whats past the light when your blinded by it right now.

              Hold tight and feel free once again choose what system appeals to you. I will have no regrets

      • sd94

        I realize I don’t own the intellectual property of the game. But that specific copy, that disc? It’s mine to do what I want with. I can keep it, trade it, sell it, or light on fire if I really wanted to. None of these bullshit obstacles Microsoft has decided to enforce.

        And if you’ve actually followed the news, “DRM” is up to the third party publishers, meaning it’s exactly the same as it was this generation. Oh, and they aren’t going to allow the third parties to implement online passes anymore. So there’s that little tidbit too.

        • ThtJstHapnd

          you can still keep it, trade it and sell it, and light it on fire. I don’t understand your point? Oh no an obstacle!! it’s called change. To move forward you must embrace change. To get promoted in a job you have obstacles, should they not be there either? See I can relate this to about anything to make sense.

          I have followed the news about DRM, it’s up to the devs yes like I believe I stated in my original comment. Now the online passes… correct, neither is MS. Both said they are giving up online passes. Thats funny cause you look at that as good. Online pass means you can’t play online but can play singleplayer. What if they got rid of online passes so they can do activation codes to play at all? Now hows the wording and relations? It’s all sale tactics and your buying into them. Usually the most hated company is the most honest and upfront company. I prefer honesty over sales pitches.

          • sd94

            Except for the fact Microsoft has been far from honest.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              If you say so. Your welcome to your opinion just as I am.

  • TachyonicPack

    I still prefer the Xbox One over the PS4.

    • SchwartzJesuz

      Why?

      • ReeceGators

        Exclusives, games that might utilize Kinect in a revolutionary way, friends are buying it, Titanfall, Always online has its advantages, Titanfall, Family share, Titanfall, and Titanfall

        • Thomas

          I think you forgot to mention Titanfall.

          • ReeceGators

            Oh yeah and that too

            • SCR3AMINGS1L3NCE

              I’m just going to type this to both of you. Excuse the copy and paste.

              I’m almost Positive that I read on one of the articles here (Maybe IGN?) about how one of Titanfall’s developers said that a PS4 and PC version of Titanfall might happen. Now, I guarantee you that it would be waaay down the road, but if it does happen, you two and everyone else will probably be pissed. With great reason, I might add.

              Hopefully, it doesn’t work out like this.

            • ReeceGators

              yeah but an emphasis on “might” also I’m just as excited for Dead Rising 3

            • B_Boss

              Oh dude, trust me. I’d bet that it will in due time. I believe Titanfall is a timed exclusive but it is speculation. There is no way in hell Respawn saw PS4′s hardware and didn’t want to port Titanfall to the console. I am sure financially speaking, they are bound in an agreement but still. I believe the PS4 would handle the game graphically (and perhaps a few features here and there) in a superior manner than the XB1 but that doesn’t mean it isn’t gorgeous on the XB1.

            • B_Boss

              annnnnnd Titanfall.

        • PuddingAuxRais1ns

          Titanfall is the ONLY reason i’m picking up the Xbox One.

          • ThtJstHapnd

            Killer Instinct? It’s free with one character.. then you can purchase the game if you like it. Thats a plus too!

            also Titanfall isn’t coming out till spring 2014. I’m wanting COD, BF4, Deadrising 3, and watchdogs. All on Dedicated servers!

          • B_Boss

            I swear that damned game would be the ONLY reason I too would pick up an XB1 if I had the funds lol….Killer Instinct is iffy….being that I consider myself a kI1 & 2 vet….

  • ReeceGators

    There is advantages to always online. Say a 1/2 hour update is coming to both consoles. Come home to a PS4 and wait 1/2 hour before you can play your favorite game. Come home to an Xbox One and the One has updated while you were at work and you can play your game right away

    • Alex Gonzalez

      You do know with Playstation Plus your system updates automatically even when your system is off and I’m talking about for the PS3.

      • ReeceGators

        I did not know that, thanks for the info :)

      • Jason

        What about game updates? I know you can go to Xboxlive.com and download BF3 MP updates, I use to do it while at work lol

      • XFistsClenchedX

        That’s really irrelevant though because now you’re excluding people who won’t have PS+ and people who won’t have their PS4 connected to the internet. See how this game works?

  • http://mp1st.com/ David Veselka

    It might not seem like it now, but I’m certain we’re eventually going to see some pretty neat things come out of the use of Kinect and the functionality of the Cloud.

    I can’t remember for which game (Forza 5?), but thanks to the Cloud, your car races other opponents whether you’re playing or not. In MMOs, for example, your character could continue to act as an NPC while you’re off doing the dishes, or something.

    The Kinect is already doing some cool things that even hardcore sit-and-play gamers might like. I know in Dead Rising 3, for example, you can shake zombies off you by just shaking your hands (no need to shake your whole body, essentially acting more like the PS Eye and the DS4 controller. You can also distract zombies by making a loud noise while sitting on your couch.

    I mean, these things probably don’t resonate with all gamers, but like I said, I’m sure we’ll eventually see some awesome uses for both the Kinect and Cloud now that MS knows everyone has them.

    • Thomas

      As Sony showed with the PS3, poor initial sales are not the final nail in the coffin. Hopefully, over time, Microsoft can make the X1 a more appealing purchase through more innovation and less gimmicks.

    • ReeceGators

      I cant wait interrupt my brother during DR3 and scream as loud as I possibly can

      • http://mp1st.com/ David Veselka

        You a**hole! Lol.

    • dpg70

      All very cool features, but people without broadband are going to buy off the shelf anyway. There’s something to be said for printing really big on the game case “BROADBAND REQUIRED” as opposed to just making everyone check in every 24 hours. If you want a game that supports Azure cloud computing, then you need broadband. Period. To say “well, we’re just going to make everyone be connected so they can play 10 of our titles that require broadband” is just ridiculous. It’s a joke that they’re even trying to put that out there as an answer to the 24 hour check in issue.

      This is the same company that released the Xbox Arcade unit with no hard drive, and then released Halo and Forza that actually required a friggin’ hard drive to use all of the content. They are not above under informing the consumer.

      I don’t mind Kinect and I don’t think the NSA is behind it’s being a required accessory. I can see some cool applications of the device actually. My issues with this console completely center around their flat out greed and arrogance.

      • http://mp1st.com/ David Veselka

        I’m actually really curious to know what sort of warning labels MS will paint on the Xbox One box!

        • dpg70

          The biggest shock to me is the middle finger they gave military. Support in limited countries (on launch), connection requirement AND region locked games. The trifecta of hate for those guys.

    • Derek Haneman

      I have less issues with the DRM stuff as I see it as a natural progression ala Steam (i’m a PC gamer primarily). Console only peeps just live in a bit of a fantasy land that hasn’t caught up with the real world yet…However I remember when Steam came out I had the Exact same reaction :-).

      The thing that bugs me is the lack of offline (24 hour check in) for single player..And even more so the stupid Kinect. I don’t like being forced into buying that pos. Its a 100$ paperweight. I don’t like the Wii, WiiU, PSeye, 3D anything lol. I don’t want to be forced into buying gimmicky crap.

      /wine off…

      So pretty much I’ll just wait till the price goes way down so I don’t feel like I’m being ripped off or try try try and try some more to convince my fellow Xbox Livers to go PS4 so I have friends to play with when i’m not on PC.

      P.S. the only exclusive that makes me sad about not having a Xbone is Forza :(…maybe a PC port in a perfect world…but that itself might be my own fantasy world :P

  • Thomas

    It’s ahead of its time and not in a good way, at least from a new sales POV. The internet requirements really limit their reach into new markets.

    As I’ve stated before, the X1 suits my gaming needs now that I’m older and game less because of my responsibilities but, most gamers are not in my shoes. I can definitely appreciate what Sony is doing, it’s just not for me.

    • Mike

      What is the Sony doing? Playing games? hah

      • Thomas

        Much more freedom and many more AAA exclusives. I don’t have time to play a shitload of games so that’s not really a selling point for me.

        • dasffa

          That’s odd though in my perspective. I’m kind of in the same position as you, not gaming as much. But why spend an extra hundred dollars if you don’t game that much. Seems kind of pointless to me, even though I can respect your decision. Is it because of some of the Microsoft exclusives?

          • Thomas

            I prefer XBL over PSN and I also prefer the Xbox controller. I’m still open to the idea of purchasing a PS4 since my old college buddies are considering making the switch but, I would have to give the new controllers a testing.

            • dasffa

              Ahh. I cant blame you on liking XBL over PSN, but at this point I believe the multiplayer experience would typically be the same really. I feel you on the controller part too.

            • B_Boss

              Why prefer XBL over PSN? (no sarcasm intended). I’m actually curious as I don’t have a PS+ but I do have access to XBL.

            • Thomas

              In my experience, it’s just much easier to navigate and find things. I know where to go for everything on PSN but, for some reason, my fiancee still struggles finding her way around PSN. I guess I prefer XBL because it’s more first-time user friendly and anybody in my house can just pick up a controller and find what they want.

            • B_Boss

              Ah ok I see.

  • Hol_Up

    I think the Xbox One’s online requirements are not for more profit, but to stop the pirates that mod and bootleg games and sell them. I know many people that buy a base xbox 360 just to steal the rest of their games and content. I believe MS is trying to fight piracy by adding a 24 hour check in to see if people are running pirated games.

    • ReeceGators

      exactly

      • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

        Yep, thank h the J- Faggers, the ungreatful shits that ruined it for everyone

        • ReeceGators

          haha J-faggers haven’t heard that one before, nice

    • dpg70

      If you really think the Xbone won’t be cracked to play games offline within 12 hours of release then you’re fooling yourself. They know it too. This has very little to do with piracy and everything to do with getting their piece of every purchased game and every transaction that game is a part of over it’s lifespan.

      • xHDx

        Are you retarded? Anything can be cracked and played “OFFLINE” you idiot. its the online they are worried about hahaha. Do you really think you will be able to play “OFFLINE” lol. no after 23 hours you cant because it checks your system via servers which will ban you, rendering the Xbox Useless. This is the only way to stop modders. And actually it has a lot to do with piracy.

        • dpg70

          ah, name calling. The true last resort when you’re point is shown to be wrong.

          • xHDx

            No i think you`ll find that im stood corect and your wrong. You can say nothing when you have no clue what your talking about. Come back when you know what you are talking about instead of posting useless shit.

        • mrup2nogud

          I imagine some kind of hack on the systems clock will allow offline play..

          • xHDx

            yep

          • dpg70

            This guy gets it. There isn’t a piece of technology that can’t be cracked. I think dumb shit doesn’t quite get my point.

      • zakrocz

        There will always be modders chipping consoles but I think it’s safe to say that 99.9% of gamers play on a non-chipped console. I looked into chipping my consoles in the past and the amount of hassle it involved in chipping and running new hacks to overcome the latest measures to stop your console playing chipped games and also receiving an xbox live ban if they detected your console was chipped was enough to put me off.

    • B_Boss

      All thats going to do is motivate even MORE piracy. It is essentially welcoming the hacker elites by its restrictions and the nature of the console (all digital), you watch and see….If thats true concerning the 24hr check in, then Sony has to be the biggest bunch of idiots……the PS4 is killing itself before it even hits the shelf……or………….

  • Donut212

    Microsoft has always been able to come back from horrible decisions/crappy products in the past. This will be no different. While I do agree that the 24 hour thing is a tad much I see why they are going this route. It is not going to stop me from getting it though. I have both systems pre-ordered and paid off in full at my job. Now to just sit and patiently wait until November.

  • Mike

    Fuck Microsoft, The Nazis of Gaming! And this is coming from a fan since the original Xbox.

    • Jason

      I think you mean the Hitler of gaming… and Fuck Off!

    • ReeceGators

      Yeah I don’t think you were a fan since orig XBOX

  • swipe_06

    Im just wondering, when they going to pull the 360 out of the market and force people to switch. also: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7572653824/h475E4AEC/

    • Dirtknap

      Actually LOL’d! Got another strange look from one of my techs to boot.

    • PuddingAuxRais1ns

      Lol. Well i will travel with my PS4 for road gaming.

    • ThtJstHapnd

      They have already committed to 360 until 2017. So systems, games and support are not going anywhere will then.

    • B_Boss

      The irony lol….many say XB1 welcomes the future but closes off much of the rest of the world and it literally seems that way. Financially and Hardware-wise via their restrictions.

  • xbox rules

    Wow so much hate on the xbox…. that’s why the xbox one is sold out everywhere for reserves

    • Mike

      Well yeah, 12 year olds don’t no any better.

      • xbox rules

        Its going to suck for 17 and under kids can’t get thier mommies and daddies to by a adult game for them. For a example new esrb rating system is in place for next gen ages will be on the game. Fedral law no parents will be allowed to buy that game for them because it will be a felony. Those darn politicians darn obama signed a bill I liked those kids and I’m going to love pissing parents off refusing the sell of a 18 plus game to the parent. I work at gamestop I’m so happy that we can do this finally

        • Alex Melendez

          I’m 17 btw and I can buy M Rated games. I don’t have to ask my mom for shit because I have a job aswell.

        • ReeceGators

          To a degree I agree with you but what the kid sees and doesn’t see should be the parents choice. I dont want Obama to decide what kids can and can’t watch

      • Jason

        “No” must be a 12 year old lol

    • dpg70

      lol! When you only give a store 8 to reserve that’s what happens.

  • QwietStorm

    Why the Xbox One Needs to be Online

    Or

    Why I pre-ordered PS4

  • xHDx

    Everything will turn out fine when it releases. And im sure like last year we will see sony fail and be hacked another 6 times. If anyone was smart enough Microsoft they realise game checking online was the only way to stop hackers.

    They dont want your money for hells sake. they are in the top 100 richest companies in the world. I wont be suprised it they are in the top 20 or 10. i lol at you sony fans.

  • XFistsClenchedX

    I think that having Xbox One’s ALWAYS being connected to the internet and ALWAYS having the Kinect camera connected is why the Xbox One will be the only console truly delivering a next-generation gaming experience. If you could play the console without internet or disconnect your Kinect, developers won’t build games that utilize those features fully. Games like Dead Rising won’t utilize the cloud to reduce load times to zero or use the Kinect’s mic to allow the zombies to hear noise in your living room (can be turned off) and if a zombie grabs you, you can make a real life gesture and push them off in the game. Games like Forza 5 won’t be built to have the cloud crunch data and deliver the most realistic AI opponents in a racing game. These things rely on the fact that every single Xbox One will have access to a Kinect and an internet connection. With the PS4, you’re just getting last generation’s games with better graphics.

    • PuddingAuxRais1ns

      Lol. You are always up to defend the Xbox One. Just to let you know i’ll be getting the Xbox One after the PS4 cause i’m one of the few people not affected by Microsoft’s anti-consumerist policy’s and i can always throw a towel over my kinect so the government won’t spy on me while i play Halo and Titanfall. Overall, PS4 is a better system that caters to gamers first and there’s no denying that whether your an Xbox fanboy or not.

      • XFistsClenchedX

        I’m always up to defend the Xbox One because so many gamers have an irrational hatred of the thing. The idea that the Kinect will be watching your every move is such a ridiculous, illogical idea and it goes against Microsoft’s privacy policy. Even if they wanted to, how would they spy on 10-20 million people? Are they going to have 10-20 million employees glued to monitors in Redmond, Washington watching your every move? It’s an insane idea. The PS4 is not a system that better caters to gamers. I like to call it the PS3.5 because it brings no new ideas or concepts. As someone who has internet and isn’t bothered by the DRM issues, I can’t think of a single thing that the PS4 does that the Xbox One can’t do. However, I can think of things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 can’t.

        • PuddingAuxRais1ns

          Both system’s, despite the fact that the PS4 is slightly more powerful, are essentially equal in terms of features. PS4 caters to gamers and devs more than Xbox One does. PS4 has no restrictions on used games, has no internet connectivity requirement, and allows devs to self-publish if they choose to. While this has little to no effect on me or you, this is a big plus for ALOT of people without access to the internet such as small country’s or on duty soldiers and devs who can fund their games and don’t want to sacrifice their artistic freedom to a big-name publisher, which will mean more games in general for the PS4. Essentially, both PS4 and the Xbox One are basically getting last gen games with better graphics and a few gimmicks. and it’s been that way since the beginning of gaming. If you think that it isn’t possible for Microsoft to spy on their consumers, think again. In fact, Congressmen are trying to introduce a bill which stops Microsoft from doing so. Link: http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-congressmen-introduce-we-are-watching-you-act-bill-targets-kinect-snooping-1311983 When you count out the DRM, anti-consumerist restrictions, and the privacy concerns from the Xbox One, then it’s a great system with plenty of potential and like i said before, i will be picking up both systems but the PS4 seems like the better choice of the two.

          • Dirtknap

            Nailed it, well said with objectivity and logic! Its a difficult argument to refute, and any comeback against your astute breakdown will be laden with fanboy rhetoric.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              I guess I am a fanboy then? I have replied to his post, let me know if it’s laden with fanboy rhetoric please.

            • Dirtknap

              Nope, good post in fact, however you seem to have missed the context of my comment. That’s in part my fault, apologies, I should have stated “any comeback from XFistsClenchedX”. You see, he’s gotten himself a reputation as a biased XBOX one fanboy of late, and many of the folks around here are growing tired of it.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              LOL got ya. Sorry if my reply came back as being cocky or smartass.. didn’t mean that either. I read it back and was kind of mad at myself.

            • Niosus

              One thing I have to note about the spying: Yes, a lot of companies profile your actions. That’s true, but that doesn’t make it “right”. I perfectly understand why they would track you to some extend. I’m the webmaster of MP1st and I also track our visitors using Google Analytics. I can’t find out any personal information, but it gives me insight in what kind of content does better than other content, where we get our traffic from etc etc. For companies like Google and Facebook this is to give you better results and obviously for ads.

              The problem I have is that we need to draw a line. Some things are just private and should stay that way. It’s not because what you do is fine now, that it will stay that way. A good example is the very diligent record keeping in The Netherlands before the second world war. They recorded a lot of info in centralized records, including religious faiths. Nothing wrong with that, no incidents for a long time. but then Hitler invaded and used those records to hunt down Jews with a remarkable efficiency.

              I’m not saying that will happen with your data. But my point is that even if you don’t have a problem with it now, it can be used against you. That’s why we need to be vigilant and don’t give governments or companies wild cards when it comes to privacy. Not because of their intentions now, but because we don’t know what will happen with that information in the future. Googling about heart diseases should increase your health insurance bill, a drunk post on Facebook shouldn’t bite you in the ass on a job interview. I’m not sure what MS will or will not track, but I think I made my point. Privacy is important, even if you have nothing to hide. In the wrong hands, information about you can always be turned against you. If MS goes bankrupt in 10 years and gets bought by a Chinese company… would you still feel comfortable?

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Privacy is important. I agree. You can disable everything in the settings. Now with that said and done and this information does get used against you in some way. Don’t you think law suits will come from everywhere? MS isn’t that stupid. People are just finding conspiracy theories to fight their want for the console. It’s new it’s moving forward, it’s damn right everyone should be worried. Everyone gets worried when something is not the same old same old. Just like the cell phone you carry, it could be listening to your every conversation and recording everything you do all day everywhere you go, but yet a camera sitting on top your tv is a problem?

            • Niosus

              I agree, I was stating it in general as a reaction to you saying that you don’t care if MS is watching you. They won’t lie about what they send because there is no way they can get away with it. It would be the quickest way to completely destroy their brand. My main issue would be that these settings are on by default just like many of the Facebook privacy settings. A lot of people do not know what they are getting in to. Right now with the Xbox One it’s probably OK, but it’s just a small step up from that and that’s what worries me a bit.

          • ThtJstHapnd

            1. Equal in terms of features is wrong. PS4 can not be turned on by voice. Can not be controlled by hand gestures, can not show tv while I skype a friend, can not stream to twitch tv. you can not share your games with 10 friends, over the internet.
            2. Restrictions on used games is misconstrued. If you use Gamestop then used games will be nothing different to you than they are now. You actually don’t know the rules and what the terms will be. Also just like sony, MS says “up to developers.”
            3. Has no requirement, PS4 also will need to put the disc in to play. On Xboxone you won’t. You can stick the disc in, it’s installed and attached to your account. From then on no need for the disc. The check is to make sure no one else has installed that disc. So it checks every 24 hours, and doesn’t need to swap discs… sounds good to me.
            4.Self publishing. Self publishing is crap. It allows tons of idiots to publish crap upon crap up on the store. Whats better 3million indep published apps that are crap, or 100k validated quality games. If you want to sift through junk games cause anyone can upload a game go ahead. I don’t. I have made apps for both android and apple and I prefer apple. Just as I would like Xboxone over PS4.
            5. This “it effects a lot of people without internet”…. I have multiple friends that can’t get cell service but have internet. It’s a back and forth you can’t please every kind of thing. The future is digital always on(like your cell phone) and always updated.
            I can’t stand when people are using the military as an example. I am a US ARMY VETERAN. When I was overseas I had better internet that what I am using now. I went through 2 PS3s and 3 Xbox360s due to abuse and damage. Now when I didn’t have internet overseas I was NOT in an area where I should be playing games, I should be protecting me and my soldiers.. I don’t understand. I would not buy the newest tech and take it overseas with me. Thats just ignorant. So that reason is just invalid.
            6. Privacy. The Xboxone will be torn apart and data will be monitored when it comes out, and all these concerns will be put to rest. I can monitor what data is sent, you can disable the kinect from listening and you can shut off the camera all from the settings. The link you put up is just normal for all the conspiracy theorist out there. Everyday someone is suing someone for something. Go to google and search a punk of stuff then all of a sudden your facebook starts giving you ads of what you just searched for. They are spying on you. It’s all in the terms and agreement you accepted. Take off your tin foil hat and get over it. If MS decides to spy on me and sees me sitting in my underwear playing bf4 at midnight more power to them. I’m not the one doing something illegal in my home. Is this about them spying or about your morals?

            So now with all that said I see “Dirtknap”‘s response and I assume I am now a fanboy. Call me or classify me as whatever you want. i just use common sense and facts to back up most of my opinions. Also that last word, opinions. All this is, is my opinions and reasoning. It takes a lot of time to be so explanatory. I will also be getting both consoles but XboxOne is my better choice, because I welcome the future and can’t wait to see whats coming.

            • Dirtknap

              Fanboys approach brand loyalty with dogmatism, clearly you do not. I’m platform agnostic and recognize each of the major players have their pros and cons. I make the comparison between the X1 and PS4 at a more simplistic level, solely because the features I consider frivolous do not interest me even slightly. I appreciate some of the points you raised, though some of them are still a little hazy or remain to be proven post launch, some are simply subjective. I’m not going address them individually because I respect your right to an informed opinion, and your ability to access acceptable risk levels for your personal situation.

              It has never been my motivation to prove one to be greater than the other, but I am damned tired of the flaming. If the wheels come off and I lose some objectivity from time to time, sorry once again, my bad.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              I appreciate your reply and I do see the pros and cons of both systems. We both are the same kind of game. We are the Pure gamer in which we seek out the truth and facts about both sides. What I can’t stand(and sure you can’t either) are the people flaming the xboxone repeatedly. If you don’t like their rules then don’t buy it. Theres no need to flame and spew untrue things to get your point across. I’m glad theres other people out there that share the same views as me, or should I say open mindedness.

            • ReeceGators

              Damn, I am impressed. Respect

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Thank you! Everything that is wrong right now will be ironed out and fine by launch. Hopefully people can still get the console they REALLY want by then.

            • B_Boss

              1) There are general features that both consoles actually share but the specifics, you’re right and that is failry obvious after even a loose study of both consoles. In a technical sense they almost perform similar but the PS4 is clearly stronger by some degree, which allows for more of the game devs wish to produce. Again, this isn’t a deal breaker personally but it is what it is. You can’t Skype so far as we know which the last I checked isn’t too big a deal. Most consumers have skype ready devices already in their home and most gamers I know honestly do not care to do such gestures with an accessory when they have controller in hand. Its a cool feature but not a deal breaker. You can’t share with a family given that PS doesn’t share the same DRM model as MS in some respects. Sharing a game with 10 people might be pretty awesome though. We don’t know Sony’s stance (as far as I am aware) on their digital model, which brings me to…

              2) MS doesn’t only say “up to devs” they also say that a security/authentication check is necessary being all digital (hey, I can understand that if you’re all digital but they made the decision). They necessitate an always connected Kinect even though you can disable the device…..and why they even have physical discs is odd to me (I mean I honestly don’t understand why they have it if the console has mandatory installs to HDD and “same day release of digital versions” of games) Sony’s stance is that they themselves will not enforce DRM and MS has specific ‘partners’ that gamers will be able trade to and from, etc. We’ll have to see how it all shapes out in the future.

              3) You’re dead wrong on this point You do NOT have to play the PS4 game from disc as it can also install to the HDD. Shuhei Yoshida has confirmed this. Disc and Digital, sounds awesome to me.

              4) This an absolute irrational point. Who are you to say what is crap or not but just another subjective opinion? Alot of devs actually believe their games are great but if they don’t even have a chance for gamers to criticize them, whats the point? MS has shown that as far as indies go, they (indie devs) can “shove it.” This is the problem with many MS acolytes I recognize, they attempt to hard to play down such wonderful and humane concepts like sefl publishing. Your reasoning as to why self publishing is “crap” is…..well, I’ll let you figure it out. Its a poor argument. Sony is purely consumer oriented and indie dev oriented in this very respect. THIS, my friend, is a great thing for gaming. and consumers.

              5) Well bud….many of us like the fact that we can literally play a game without relying on even such a simple part of our lives called the internet. Contextually as gamers, we simply come from a generation of “grab a game, blow it, dust it off, pop it in, play, lend it, sell it, period”. There is something personal that comes with such an experience, especially when you pay out money for a product. MS licenses digital content out to the consumer, Sony sells the rights to own a physical copy to the consumer to do what they want with it. Essentially you’re renting games for 60-70ish bucks with MS. When I own something, I do what I want with it. Sony recognizes this and I find that refreshing as we enter the ‘digital age’ of the home console.

              Claiming an argument is invalid doesn’t cut the mustard. You may have been a vet (and I humbly salute you) but all vets and servicemen/women are not created equally. Some military personnel are truly concerned and they have every rational right to be give the policies of MS and the XB1. i wouldn’t go and claim they’re all crazy or irrational. Many of them have great points. While some may “use the military” i highly doubt they all are. Many of them are just gamers who happen to be in the military and are concerned given the rules of service for the XB1, it is worthy of discussion.

              6) Tinfoil eh? Wow lol…I bet many people said that before the CIA was caught spying on its citizens but I digress lol….if MS is doing that, it stands against everything this country was built on (at least ideally as stated in the US Constitution). That is why its important. It is a moral question, absolutely.

              Most people I see online rightfully complain that the rules are just….odd. I suppose if you’re going all digital then it is to be expected but the console could have easily done what PS4 does: allow digital and physical, hell MS already has disc based gaming but only as a necessity to install to HDD when they could probably cut corners financially by not creating them.

              “Just accept it” I weep for our future lol…..we don’t have to, thats the point and we have every right to ask MS why include such features and to criticize their decisions. Instead you get “this isn’t sprint, backwards compat. is backwards, dont have internet? get a 360″ Its condescending and shows how out of touch these ……people are.

              Define “better”. Both consoles welcome the future but one has certainly not forgotten its past….especially its past consumers and have successfully merged the two.

              (My word…..I have to apologize to the readers…I need to stop writing novels lol….)

            • ThtJstHapnd

              I am going to start off by thanking you for a well written response. Your response though is an opinion just as mine was.

              1. when you talk about the skype and gestures and such. It was the fastest selling accessory ever. It just didn’t get the attention it deserved. With that said, I undertand YOU might not want it. Now when I got my Iphone with siri, I told myself I would never use it, but I do wall the time. Now they have phones you answer a call with waving your hand over it? Thats called inovation and it’s what everyone is moving towards. If you want to stick with normal, don’t upgrade.

              2. We can’t fight abou this one as policies haven’t been set in stone. It won’t be any problem to me as a consumer. I can see where it will effect some people but it’s still a minority. If it wasn’t a minority these discussions would be in the millions and not thousands.

              3. So you think you can install the disc take the disc out and play whenever you want? No. Plain no. With that they would have to have some kind of drm to prevent you from buying the game and giving it to ten of your friends at once…. now keeping the disc in the drive just as the ps3 and xbox360 do now is right. I understand that. It spins up to see the disc and your good. Well xboxone just checks online and bam your done. No need to have the disc in the drive.

              4.I undertand whats crap or not is my opinion. I was referring to would you rather sift through massive piles of uncompleted work or have a completed certified game to play. Go ahead and pay for the crap stuff then complain on their feedback bar when it’s crashing or a horrible game. You paid for it.

              I gotta get going but I will give you that you are on your stuff. You make good points but still nothing that makes me want to rage or hate MS. I am going to get a One and I’m going to love every min of it.

            • B_Boss

              Appreciate it man. Just to hit at some of your points,

              2) As far as I know, this is the current policy of MS and Sony respectively.

              3) Yoshida said that you can either play games digitally or physically via disc (and of course you can’t just yank the game out as its being played or installed from onto the HDD lol).

              4) Well thats the point. In order to ‘sift” through anything (crap or awesomeness) we need a platform to have the games launched on. We need a marketplace wherby indie devs can show the world their creations. Sony is ready, MS has declined unless strict and specific conditions are met, these conditions have been somewhat unfavorable. When compared to Sony’s policies regarding indies, the more comfortable choice seems to be Sony (if I were an indie dev). So you’re right. I totally get your point but I’d like to at least have devs create what they dream and have a market where they can circulate and show me, the consumer, their creations and I then make a choice. Now MS has said they will consider future models for indies but right now they have stated their current desires and model and some devs do not like it.

              5) I hope you do. I’ll be picking up a PS4 but I certainly do not wish MS or the console or fans of XB any ill will. We’re all gamers ;). I am truly looking forward to the development of each console’s lifecycle.

            • ThtJstHapnd

              Now see this post I can fully respect and I can interact with. I don’t like all the hostility everyone is throwing around. Everyone has their right to opinion and I respect whatever choice people make. I’m not here to prove anyone wrong, I just wanted to shine some light on the situation at hand and try and get people to just calm down.

              The number 2 thing is that always on doesn’t bother me. I understand how many people are out there. I understand it involves and hurts some people. Now just a opinion here, if you can’t get internet and ca’t stay connected why would you spend 400 to 500 on a new system when BOTH of their selling points are almost all about being online. Digital downloads, share button, friends lists… it’s all about being connected. Going to the next level will be a system shock to a lot of people. Now I do agree and will say the WAY MS is pushing this out is just horrible. The way they released all their info and just let sony smack them in the face onstage.. It was pretty funny to watch. But being in sales I know what Sony is doing. Their plan for the future is the same they just know from the reactions people aren’t ready yet and won’t be until a few years down the road. I’m ready though and I want it now like a lot of other people.

              The indie thing I just can’t fight with. Everyone sees it their own way. I have seen some devs say they don’t like the fees and certification, and cost to update(which I do not like). But they also say the quality and distribution on live is better than psn. I’m sure with sony charging for psn now they will have a better network. I have fingers crossed it won’t be hacked again, or down for a month like it has.

              With all the things going on this is going to be one hell of a next gen console launch!

        • B_Boss

          You see, if only you would put away your emotional love for MS Clenched….Hypothetically, how would they spy on 10-20 million people? It could be done technically (not that I believe MS spies on you but hey…..they were allegedly involved in the PRISM scandal and have been accused of giving private and personal information out before but I digress) You dont need an employee/targets ratio of 1-1 lol. The NSA can do it easily and trust me, they do not have 20 million employees, just as an example.

          There is no general hatred of the XB1 that is irrational. Many consumers are rightfully concerned about the console and the policies developed by its creator/s.

          Why you call the system a PS3.5 is beyond me. If Cloud Processing is not new to the console generation then I don’t know what it and if you don’t consider that ‘new’ then XB1 is in the same exact camp. but I would like to think that MS and Sony are nextgen minded by bringing such interesting and new concepts to the home console market.

          You sound irrational by claiming that whatever one system cannot do, that is a failure of that system. You imply that this is a failure or negative aspect of said console when this is clearly nonsense. I can think of a few things the XB1 cannot do that the PS4 can and vice-versa and yet they are both good consoles in their own right but there are standards and when I consider my gaming heritage, I am not pleased with what XB1 is doing or the tone and direction that its creators take.

    • mrup2nogud

      Exactly what I want.. And if the Xbox 1 turned out to be massively better then I may get one further down the line…

  • Ryan Merrifield

    He mentioned in the video how Microsoft was taking on this “You don’t know what you want” mentality, and took it as a negative thing. I think this could be a positive thing. While the PS4 seems to be the clear choice in everyone’s mind, essentially it is a revamped PS3, which is a very good thing for most people. If companies listened to what people wanted, nothing would change. I for one am excited for the Xbox One because its going to truly be a next-gen console, not just in horsepower, but in how the system works. Think about it, Apple didn’t become a pioneer in mobile devices by introducing a new flip phone. They did something different.

    As for all the problems with the “Always On” situation, I always find it ironic that people complain about that over the internet…

    • Alex Melendez

      Oh the irony of it all :D

    • xHDx

      Anyone who complains over the internet is just stupid. Basicly contradicting your comment by commenting. i agree with your comment. I don`t want the same stuff over again, i want inovation, bigger and better games, a totally new system, and just thinking about the cloud excites me. Yeah and we do get 1.5 Terra-bytes of free cloud storage which is enough to store 150 games :)

      I wonder what Playstation fans will get? maybe even 5GB if they are lucky

      • XFistsClenchedX

        I like how they talk about how great it is that the PS4 has upgradeable hard drives, but ignore that the Xbox One can utilize external hard drives. I could plug in a 4TB external hard drive into the USB 3.0 port in 2 seconds and then install all of my games to that if I wanted to.

        • Jason

          I was just thinking the same! Do you think since Sony and Microsoft for some stupid reason did not go with Solid State drives, that if you were to connect a Solid State Drive via USB 3.0 to the Xbox One, that there might be an advantage to loading games and joining games quicker? Just a thought.

          • xHDx

            Possible? not sure how that works with the systems though. But good idea. With the new system(s) i doubt you will have to wait more than 5 seconds to load up your game or level.

          • B_Boss

            Probably but…I dont get what you mean. Sony and MS did not go with SSD’s…do you mean included or bundled with the system? That would cost to much for the consumer in general. You can attach an internal SSD inside of a PS4 no problem.

        • B_Boss

          Be gone clenched. You dont “like” anything anyone has to say positive about Sony which makes 98% of your arguments invalid as all hell. A small benefit to PS4 having swappable internal HDD’s is simple, ask any XB1 owners (soon to be anyways) if they would prefer a swappable internal HDD and not the nightmare that was 360 over the current choice and see what they say, they certainly would prefer it if given a choice.

          One obvious difference (though not a make or break deal) is that it definitely frees up a USB slot. This is minor but there you go. Most of us aren’t ignoring the facts, but we rejoice over others.

      • PuddingAuxRais1ns

        I think it’s a matter of how people without the internet won’t enjoy the Xbox One. Considering the fact that the Xbox One will only work in about 20 countries and how the internet is required to play, it’s pretty much common sense to know that Microsoft will be losing out on ALOT of potential sales. I can see the PS4 outselling the Xbox One by a lot.

      • mrup2nogud

        That extra storage space for up to 150 games really isn’t needed. I mean I bet most people have about 10-15 games

  • TehPuppy

    Perhaps my initial comment was removed because it was a bit harsh. Let’s try this again but try to maintain a more objective and less slanderous approach.

    Microsoft has stated that there will be no advertisements on the dashboard. Claiming that Microsoft is requiring a 24 hour connection simply so they can sell ad space is, simply put, wrong. you need only use Google to confirm that I speak the truth here.

    Microsoft has stated that there are two main reasons behind requiring the 24 hour check-in. The first reason is that it is required in order to implement their new “share your entire game library with 10 family* members” (*Microsoft has already stated that you don’t actually have to be related in any way to an individual in order to have them in this circle). Why is it required? Because you’ll be able to lend an entire game to any one of your 10 friends within this circle at any given time, even if your not online. In order to restrict gamers from, in essence, creating an endless loop of sharing one single game purchase they require you to check in with the game license once very 24 hours. Otherwise the gaming market as a whole would surely crumble.

    The second reason is because, during these once every 24 hour check-ins, your Xbox One is ensuring that all of your games are up to date with the latest patches. If it’s not, the Xbox One will go ahead and do that for you. What does this mean? No more waiting to patch a game every time you want to play it. This particular reason also has a second part to it. A game developer from Sunset Overdrive has been quoted as saying they are extremely excited about this auto-patch feature because it will enable them to easily implement patches, gameplay changes, and game additions on a daily basis. What does this mean? If a game developer utilizes this it would mean that they could constantly change the game you are playing on a daily basis ensuring that there is always something new to experience every time you play. This would in essence, even make single player games come to life on a whole new level, making for a seamless ever evolving gaming experience.

    Could these features be implemented without a 24 hour check-in? Most certainly not. so instead of focusing solely on the policy and how it’s a greedy money grab move by Microsoft, how about we look at it in the light it was intended? A necessary step in order to push games further than ever before.

    • Bumbles

      Here here.

    • Ryan Schulze

      So on one hand we have speculation that is slandered as completely wrong. On the other hand we have the company line, which is completely “truth.” Really? You believe all that is THE Reason for the Always connected? You don’t think the link to you and ads in your games (not on your dashboard) that are specific to who has just entered the room, might have something to do with it? You don’t think it’s related to their massive over priced purchase of Skype? I’m not saying there are no benefits to always connected. My PS4 will be almost always connected and there will be benefits to it. Will my PS4 become a useless brick if I don’t have it connected? No.

      I know Microsoft will sell plenty of consoles. They’ll do well. This is good for gamers. I’ll be happy with my PS4. Maybe in 3-4 years, when that Always connected system synced with Kinect 2.0 creates some game experience that I just have to have, I’ll get one. Doubtful, but possible. Until then, I’ll put equal value in the speculation and the company line.

      • TehPuppy

        I’m not saying that Microsoft isn’t out to make money. Of course Microsoft wants to make money. But they aren’t going to make it selling ad space. Cool tid bit for you, you can actually disable the Kinect listening to you. Kinda hard for Microsoft to gather intel for ads on you when they can’t…. gather intel on you.

        Microsoft purchased Skype because it is doing WAY better than their built in Windows Messenger (or MSN messenger if you prefer). Microsoft has a long history of buying out competition. That purchase has very little to do with next gen consoles.

        • Ryan Schulze

          The ad sales will come from the kinect reading who is in the room via the camera, not the mic. Plus the camera can monitor your reaction to ads in game or tv you are watching through the Xbox. Actually read your palpable physical subliminal response to ads. That’s valuable information.

          And Skype had to be destined for the Xbox. It is the only thing that seems to logically explain the purchase that puzzled industry analysts. You don’t massively overpay to buy out competition unless they rake in cash or you have bigger plans for it or you make really poor decisions.

          • TehPuppy

            The kinect won’t monitor anything if you disable it. Which Microsoft has stated you will be able to do.

            And perhaps you’re right in regards to the Skype buy out. I wasn’t at that meeting lol. Course maybe I am right. No real way of knowing for sure I suppose. In either case, I’m most certainly not complaining about the move. MSN messenger was garbage anyway. Both on PCs and on the Xbox 360

            • Ryan Schulze

              Yes the kinect can be turned off, when not in use. However, I haven’t seen anywhere where the kinect can be turned off while using the xbox.

              Skype with xbone will be cool. Ideal to say hi to Grandma as family. If Grandma has an xbone.

              The Xbone may bea must have device in3-5 years, but as of now, not interested.

    • Taylor Cogdill

      I think it’s fair to look at it in the light microsoft intended, but we still have to consider all of the cons just as much as the pros.

      Sharing game libraries is a great idea, but I think 24 hour check ins is the wrong choice to make to ensure their system does not fall apart. I personally cannot think of anything off-hand that would solve the infinite license sharing problem, but I’m sure that forcing DRM onto the player base will cause more harm than being able to share games will do good.

      And updates are not that bad to sit through. Just turn the console on and let it run while it downloads. The idea that developers will be able to send out super frequent updates is, unfortunately, a pipe dream. Some small tweaks and changes might be able to go in, as it is now, but Microsoft has and will continue to have a very lengthy validation process for anything that goes out on their consoles, physical or digital. Updates that require significant time to download will not be frequent enough to justify forcing DRM on the playerbase for a (in my opinion) slight convenience.

      I think in this case, the truth lies in the middle. MIcrosoft wasn’t greedy, but they aren’t saints either. Mainly because they made an inconsiderate choice. This is my opinion:

      For all the good Microsoft is trying to do, they are taking 3 steps back with DRM. I think Microsoft’s intentions were good, but they severely underestimated how much the player base HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATES DRM. I think if any of their ideas require DRM, they should immediately pitch that idea. The player base has never hated anything more than DRM. Not Gamestop. Not EA. Not even Jack Thompson. DRM is a poison not only because people hate it so much, but also because it excludes a large portion of the gaming community, and every developer, publisher and manufacturer should stay away from it like it’s mustard gas.

      Also…. If Microsoft can’t realize how much their consumers hate DRM, after we talked about how much we hate it in youtube videos, after we said we would swear off the XBO if they included DRM, and after games like sim city 3 failed horribly because of DRM, then can we say they honestly care about us beyond our money?

      • TehPuppy

        You bring up some fair points and I never intended to make it seem as if Microsoft is a bunch of saints looking out for us at every turn. It’s a business, they’re in it to make money. I just don’t believe they are being as underhanded as a lot of folks are painting them out to be. And let’s be honest, Sony isn’t really trying to be our friends either.

        But both companies have to care about us beyond our money to at least SOME degree. Because if you upset your customers enough, they don’t buy your products (unless you have Call Of Duty in the title of your merchandise in which case folks will buy it regardless of how little you care about them…. p.s. that was a joke). I understand the majority of “gamers” hate DRM but even we, the gamers, must realize we are the vocal minority. The largest portion of people that buy games couldn’t even tell you what DRM is.

        • Taylor Cogdill

          It may have been true in the past we internet dwelling gamers were the vocal minority, but as the internet becomes more accessible and in the wake of things like PIPA and SOPA, it has been shown that at least the entire internet community has the ability to coordinate itself. And the number of opposers were staggering. I can’t say how many of those people play video games, but I think the vocal minority is a lot larger than it used to be.

          Marketers use a system called sampling, and it can be done one of two ways: 1) go out and conduct surveys or 2) use incoming information as a sample. Have you ever heard the saying, “One angry letter means you have 10 angry customers,”? That is completely true. While we may be a vocal minority, I think it’s not too far-fetched to say we serve as an accurate sample. While everybody might not know what DRM is, if given a simple explanation, we would see the same amount of outrage as we see on the internet. I’ve even done this myself, and I find most (like 7 or 8 times out of ten) people are not attracted to the idea, and some (maybe 3-5 out of 10) will say they won’t buy an XBO because of it, and even worse I hear people say they won’t buy the XBO because they don’t have the internet for MS’s DRM.

          But beyond all the outrage, beyond all the speculation of intentions, a much more constructive argument is about DRM itself.

          DRM is more trouble than it’s worth for a few reasons. 1) it excludes anybody who doesn’t have internet or the internet speed to support XBL. I was in this situation for a year because my ISP kept connecting new people without upgrading their equipment, slowing my internet to the point where XBL would not work. Also, if you’re not the sysadmin of your wireless network, firewalls and port-forwarding can really mess up your gaming experience, even crash it. Granted a lot of sysadmins are willing to fix these issues, but at the same time a lot are not willing to.

          2) It’s unstable. I don’t care how stable anybody advertises their DRM to be. It. Will. Crash. Sim City claimed their DRM would never be down. Lo and behold their system kept crashing for the first week, and it continues to have problems. Same with Diablo 3. When all the XBO-s turn on for the first time, I can GUARANTEE you Microsoft will have major issues with it for the first week at least. It’s another layer of glitches and problems that really don’t give much in return besides a handful of cool novelty features.

          3) Players hate it. I know I said we should move away from this argument, but I think it’s still important to note. For all the problems it causes and the bad taste in our mouths from all the failed attempts at DRM, it is really despised.

          4) It makes the XBO useless without an internet connection. I think it goes without saying, but that’s a stupid choice. What if I wanna bring my console on a road trip (I can hook it up to my laptop and play it that way)? What if my internet goes down? What if their DRM goes down? What if a squirrel munches on the internet lines? What if I move and my sysadmin won’t port-forward because s/he’s paranoid? What if I want to bring my console to a friends house and s/he doesn’t have internet? In the past, in all of those cases I could at least fall back on single player modes. Now we cant. This DRM causes so many situations that makes the XBO useless that it’s actually a gamble when you buy an XBO. You’ll never know for how long you can use it, or if where you’re moving to will have the internet to support it. And as we start to reach the global bandwidth limit (basically we are running out of frequencies to emit the internet on), this problem will become only more prevalent.

          We can examine all the reasons why Microsoft made this move. We can examine their intentions. We can examine their truthfullness. But in the end, I think we can agree DRM by itself is more trouble than it’s worth. I personally will not be purchasing an XBO because I don’t want the functionality of my console which will cost 450$ to depend on something that crashes so often and has so many problems.

          • TehPuppy

            Very good points. Can’t say I agree with them all but regardless of my personal feelings you bring up some good points. Unfortunately for all of us I think only time will clarify these questions and concerns.

      • B_Boss

        Here’s another question….doesn’t it cost devs money to release patches? I mean they won’t be doing it often on consoles if it costs an arm and leg. You want to minimize it if it costs alot, not increase frequency.

        • TehPuppy

          Good question and as far as the X1 goes I have no factual evidence of an answer in either direction. But I CAN say this, Sony has done away with charging game developers per patch. I can only assume Microsoft will follow suit otherwise game developers would be shunning them hardcore.

        • BOSS jediZOHAN

          Microsoft charges to issue patches and I’m fairly sure the standard fee is around $10K

    • B_Boss

      Now we know there is at least a 3rd reason you either neglect or fail/forget to mention, and this is a no-brainer for any all-digital console: to make sure you do not have a game you did not pay for somehow installed onto your HDD.

      Good arguments/points made but I believe there are more to be made concerning MS’ policies.

      • TehPuppy

        I KIND of touched on this a little bit when talking about the family sharing but yes, you’re right. 24 hour check-in is a DRM or Digital Rights Management policy which at it’s very core and definition, is ensuring that gamers do not own illegal game licenses (digital games downloaded to the consoles hard drive).

    • Cycovision

      “Could these features be implemented without a 24 hour check-in? Most certainly not.”
      Really? Because PS+ gives me an option to set a two hour window to turn itself on, check for any patches, game saves etc… downloads them and uploads the saves to the PS+ servers and then turns off. This of course is completely optional and doesn’t inhibit your ability to play offline.
      They could have done something similar but chose the most ridiculous path.
      Even Steam allows you to play single player games offline.
      What Microsoft did was nothing more than DRM

    • BOSS jediZOHAN
      • TehPuppy

        Yes because speculation on a reddit thread clearly means it’s a fact right? You DO realize that once you choose to disable you Kinect from listening to or watching you (which is something Microsoft has already said you can do), they won’t be able to collect data on you for ads, period. Is that really that hard to understand?

        • BOSS jediZOHAN

          How is this (linked in the reddit thread) speculation? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130529/13032423241/microsofts-next-great-patent-xbox-achievements-watching-advertising.shtml

          MS has announced that you can earn achievements by watching shows and ads with your Xbox One. They want you to watch ads and they’re “rewarding” you with “achievements” for doing so.

          BTW, the Xbox One dashboard shows ads for “recomened” content, i.e., music/movies/tv shows: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news-700/Xbox-One-Dashboard-Won-t-Have-Ads-on-Home-Screen.jpg?1371460607

          Just because you don’t think they’ll be throwing ads at you because they hide them beind “achievments” and “recomendations” doesn’t mean they aren’t trying to throw ads in your face: http://www.forbes.com/sites/willburns/2013/05/27/how-xbox-one-will-change-advertising-forever/

          The bottom line is MS is requiring an internet connection for a variety of reasons, one of which is advertising.

          • TehPuppy

            My point is MS doesn’t have to require an internet connection for ensuring that ads are viewed. The internet is littered with advertising. Hell, there is ads at the top of this page. Is an internet connection required to view this page? Yes. Is my computer REQUIRED to be on the internet so that it can view these ads? No.

            So why are the ads there? It’s a good source of revenue for a fairly effortless edit in the websites script.

            Is MS trying to earn extra money via advertising? But of course, who would be so foolish as to deny this? But are they requiring internet to force customers to watch ads? No. Why? Because you can opt out of the ad viewing. Nobody is going to force you to watch ads on an Xbox One.

    • jameslara

      “The second reason is because, during these once every 24 hour check-ins, your Xbox One is ensuring that all of your games are up to date with the latest patches.”

      MY Ps3 can do this already, and I don’t loose access to my games if I turn it off. It’s not a reason to require check-ins, just a reason to require online if you want to use that feature.

      Auto patching/update is nothing new at all.

      The first point makes sense, though there are still plenty of other ways to go about with that without the 24 hour check in.

      • TehPuppy

        I’m not saying it’s a GOOD reason. I just mentioned it because that’s was what was stated by a Microsoft employee. I can’t remember the name or the article I read it in off the top of my head but if you like I can go find it for you.

        • jameslara

          No no I wasn’t attacking you or anything. I knwo they said that, but the fit’s BS. Anyway the online is now gone

    • Brian Ge

      Yeah, but these features shouldn’t be required, that’s the problem.
      Family sharing, great, but how about letting use share discs like we can currently as well? If you can’t sign in to the server, but have the disc, you should still be able to play the game you paid for!
      I hear you’re argument now though, this would enable people to transfer their game license to a friend, keep the disc, and unplug the box so they can both play right? So they have to implement a check in to make sure more than one person isn’t playing a game at the same time.
      Fair enough, but who asked for this family share feature? I certainly didn’t, none of my gamer friends did, it’s not that hard to lend a disc to someone, the current model isn’t broken.
      But I can see the benefit of sharing long distance without having to use a physical copy. In my eyes the benefits do not outweigh the restriction caused by this.
      To put it plainly, as a Marine I understand the need for an offline console. It kept our spirits high, helped with homesickness, just being able to play games overseas with friends during your downtime. Yet, this whole sector has been ignored in favor of a feature nobody asked for, and conveniently it enables DRM on a whole new level that was not possible without this.
      So they can try to “educate” us about the benefit, while completely ignoring the restriction, but I won’t be purchasing one. I love my 360, and it’s a shame they ruined the new system, but c’est la vie.
      Thankfully the PS4 is a perfect option for military members.
      Another thing no one seems to be talking about, what happens during xbox live service outages? Well, you can’t play your games, that’s what.

    • Jake Kolveski

      Well, what a shame. As a member of the United States Army Corps I can confirm that I will not be buying an Xbox One, but a PS4 instead because it can be played offline for more than 24 hours.

      It makes very little sense to alienate consumers, rather than to increase the number of potential consumers.

      • TehPuppy

        While I am not a member of the military so I cannot exactly empathize with you, I can indeed sympathize for you in your situation. I do find it dumb that MS hasn’t tried to seek out an offline solution. I understand that roughly 3% of gamers play without internet. That doesn’t excuse the fact that Microsoft is throwing this 3% under the bus. I personally am still undecided as to which console to get, but speaking objectively, I can only agree and applaud your decision to go with PS4 given your life circumstances. Just wish you, and every other member of the military (and non-military folks who just don’t have internet access) didn’t have to have their hand forced. Economic competition works better when the consumer has a choice…

    • kevin carey

      Nice post, TehPuppy…but I think you’re expecting way too much of a random gamer/”journalist” if you thought he’d actually do research before post his ramblings. :o

      • TehPuppy

        Thank you! I’m not trying to stir up trouble, and I do realize this is posted in the “editorial” section of the website meaning it is largely an opinion piece. But it does frustrate me a little bit to see unfounded claims like this. Especially since I like to consider myself an aspiring game “journalist” or video game reviewer (via my YT channel, yeah yeah shameless plug). my first post was removed because I went a little… “hard in the paint” in pointing out the various flaws in the article and I was admittedly, a bit mean about it.

        I just grow weary of constantly reading biased and uninformed articles based off of rumor and speculation. I prefer my news to be factual. If a writer wants to add an opinion to the end of an article, that’s fine, so long as it’s clear that the statement IS an opinion.

        But I digress, this article is an editorial, therefore it is someone’s opinion. We are all entitled to our own opinions aren’t we?

  • oofy

    I must agree with what I’ve heard on the Giant Bombcast: Microsoft surely ran numbers on the people they would lose, the people they would keep and how much money they would make and decided it was worth the move.

    The mistake that Microsoft made was not dictating the discussion, but letting the discussion dictate what the Xbox One is. Most people still don’t understand what benefits they get from being always online.

    Currently, I’m on the fence but I’m leaning more towards a ps4.

    • QwietStorm

      Would you care to expound on the benefits? I’m curious myself as to how that pans out.

      • oofy

        Like I said, I’m leaning towards a ps4. Read TehPuppy’s post below for some benefits.

  • Mastalink

    Alex… way too negative with Microsoft with your articles… at least do the research and bring up some of the positive reasons… I visit the site daily and your articles make me want to stop visiting the site… this isn’t politics, but I feel like it’s getting that way… all of your editorial you backed up your claim with only emotional speculation…

    • ThtJstHapnd

      I think this article is way better than anything on IGN. IGN can take anything about MS thats good and turn it around to trash them, then Make sony look like the best thing ever in the next sentence. I fell like IGN is the Fox News fighting for Romney(sony), against Obama(MS).

      • zakrocz

        I think you misunderstood my post I was actually saying that Alex sounded like one of the comment posters on EG or IGN

        • ThtJstHapnd

          I never even saw your comment. I was replying to Mastalink. I was agreeing about the negativity. Even positive articles about XboxOne are being turned into negative articles. It’s the fun thing to do right now, to be hating on MS.

      • ReeceGators

        or MSNBC, NBC, or most other mainstream medias Romney(MS) vs. Obama (Sony)

        • ThtJstHapnd

          True!

    • zakrocz

      Yeh gotta agree and calling the Xbox One Xbone comes across like an EG or IGN poster and we expect better from MP1st contributers, well at least I do.

  • zakrocz

    The thing is, today’s generation of children will grow up in a world where it will be the norm to download their music, movies, books and games as it is already becoming the norm for a lot of people now.

    With this in mind it’s only natural that the entertainment providers are going to want to control piracy of said downloaded media and Xbox One is just a natural progression for where digital downloading is heading especially regarding video games.

    And anyone who downloads movie torrents and owns a PS3 will already know Sony have already implemented Cinavia in the PS3 via a system update in 2009 which disables the movies audio track if it detects the movie is a pirate copy.

    There is nothing to stop Sony changing their policy during the lifetime of the PS4 and implementing online checks and just put the blame on those evil publishers because we are Sony after all, every gamers best friend ;-)

  • MegaMan3k

    Oh, you mean an article is going to talk about how this DRM is necessary in order to merge the disc and digital markets?

    Grrr.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheNeoReaper Chad Eugene Rash

    I’ve’ never had my account hacked on the psn. Its been hacked twice on xbox live. My first ps3 lasted for 3years before it broke down. My first 360 lasted 4 months.

    • mrup2nogud

      I also as a PSN user have never suffered an account hack the only hack I ever suffered on PSN was the main one that everyone likes to condemn them for and my only Xbox360 lasted 3 weeks from brand new I gave it to my brother and bought a ps3 taking the loss as I couldn’t be bothered with the mither

  • BFplayer

    Just saying that the 24 hour online thing for the xbox might be the downfall of Microsoft’s console. They can patch it or recall to fix it but will have a large loss of dough. If things change I might consider to buying an Xbox One in a year or two if the PS4 does not live up to my expectations.

  • shawn

    i dont want to hear any complaining the 1st time anon or lulz crashes the psn network ms has always had better network security . look at the ps3 patch 4,45 . its bricking consoles left and right . sony has never cared or wanted to spend real money to make their network secure

  • crzyfox

    This is SIMPLE people. Get this through your heads…. no conspiracy either. straight facts. the gaming industry once was a great place to be. then mega corporations rose around it. so this ultimatum is one to listen to. ALL of these fortune 500 companies are tied at the hip with one thing. government. This Xbox One ultimately is teaching all of you that NO ONE has privacy anymore. Even though privacy could easily be implemented. This really is what it comes down too. Cameras that more than likely have a function to override your inputs for privacy. a microphone that CANNOT be turned off. and of course CHECK INS??? Disgusting. This is brute force on Microsoft’s part to show you that you have no choice and no options if your a loyal fan to the console. while you can stick up your hands and say “screw off”… most probably wont. they at Microsoft see the trends via legislation in congress stripping your birth rights and figure…. Stick it to em. not me. they can go to ha ti’s. And ultimately will with this kind of greed, power, and much more against the populace. THIS IS THE TRUTH. Open your eyes and you will connect the dots. its all on the web. FOR NOW

    • xHDx

      If Microsoft were stupid enough to steal our rights to privacy then why would they allow us to turn kinect off? why do we not need a microphone?Surely if your a loyal fan for the past 10 years, Microsoft at least has the sense to not disrupt privacy. I can`t understand how people think like this. It`s just idiotic. They have shown you the console, the games, how it works so far. If you don`t want the console there is 1 simple option – don`t buy it. it can`t be any simpler than that.

      I know that Microsoft wouldn`t do this to people, and when both consoles release i`m sure you will find everything will be as normal as it was before E3 and the conferences.

  • Manny Maciel

    Welcome to the 21st century if you cant fit in tough luck.

    • Dirtknap

      That over simplifies the issue, don’t you think?

    • B_Boss

      Thats a “Clenched” term there bub lol….”survival of the gaming fittest” eh?

  • Jarmen

    Hmm. The cows are coming home it seems lol.

  • Marcin Kubica

    bf3 mouse console gameplay, n00bish, blah :P

  • jmc8888

    1. Microsoft gives your data to gov’t…for example; web and email amongst other data.

    2. Microsoft has built in back doors to Windows since Windows 95.

    3. They’re already said they’ll follow any court order (including Kangaroo FISA court), and in some cases they don’t even need to since they let the gov’t jack in to their wires.

    4. Microsoft has been telling the gov’t about 0-day security flaws in it’s software. The gov’t exploits them. Then sometime later, Microsoft scares you by saying….hurry up and update..it’s CRITICAL!!!! So critical you let the gov’t exploit people with it for 3-6 months? Yeah.

    5. Google is now suing the gov’t because they cannot tell their customers who they are spying on. Repeat. The gov’t forces these companies to NOT tell you.

    Again I’ll say it. If you want to know if cigarettes cause cancer do you ask the head of Marlboro?

    Use your brain. Kinect is always listening to you, and no you can’t turn it off.

    Even the way Microsoft wanted to use it for itself…make money off YOUR data, is incredibly creepy, and can really impact your life negatively. (but one has to think of all the ways it can backfire on you…and most people have mental sloth so they DON’T)

    Microsoft can sell your data to your employer or school and then they can cross check the logs and your attendance.

    They can sell your body data to insurers who then have a record of how big you’ve been over the years…your own Kinect causing your insurance premiums to skyrocket.

    Both Microsoft AND the Gov’t sell/trade/give your data away to THOUSANDS of companies.

    So many ways to abuse it, and people are actually stupid enough to pretend there isn’t anything. Ladies and Gentlemen, that’s how morons do things. Don’t be one.

    Because MS is saying ‘trust us’.

    …ooh and don’t forget Steam is going to allowed sharing games…and it’s not going to force everyone on Steam to ‘check in’.

    In other words Steam just told MS….’you’re doing it wrong!!!!’

    So what was the OP? Oh that’s right, full of it.

  • Glebsle

    What a shame. As a member of the US milatry I can confirm I will not be buying the Xbox One, but the PS4 instead becuase its the only console that can play offline.

    What was Microsoft thinking alienating the militray?

  • fc

    If this really was about cloud based services then they could make it optional with a sign in to the network like they do now on the 360 but unfortunately its about control. They want the ability at all times to dictate when and how you play and use the system.

  • B_Boss

    Well as well said this article is, MS changing their policies seems to agree with many consumers who say that the DRM mess (to an extent) is not necessary. So logically they aren’t ‘embracing’ the future according to many but are going backwards lol? You decide.

  • Blaze Blue

    ok what you just said was totally wrong. The reasons why the Xbox has to do a one time 24 hr check, because it needs to verify the license to the game so that it don’t get pirated . If you have a cellphone with WiFi you can connect it to your Xbox for the license to be checked .

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