Battlefield 4 – Commander Mode In Detail

In the latest entry of DICE’s Battlefield Blog, the team details everything you need to know about Commander Mode in Battlefield 4.

As you know, DICE is bringing back the mode that was first introduced in Battlefield 2 as a way to act as a commander with a complete overview of the Battlefield via a top-down, tactical map where he or she could issue commands or aid teammates in a number of ways.

Early Battlefield 2 Commander Mode Mock-Ups

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Commander Mode in Battlefield 4

DICE writes that some of Lead Multiplayer Designer Thomas Andersson’s major goals were to create interesting Commander vs. Commander gameplay and to keep things accessibile, especially on multiple platforms. According to Andersson, Commander Mode on mobile devices will be on par with the console and PC versions.

Interestingly, unlike in Battlefield 2, Battlefield 4 Commanders will not have the possibility of switching between Commander Mode and a 1st-person soldier mode. Commander Mode is a full-time job, as they put it. This should ensure the Commander’s dedication to the entire team for the length of the match.

Now let’s check out some of that assets at the Commander’s disposal, of which there are two; the squad loop and the main Commander assets loop.

The basic set up includes UAVs and EMPs, as well as the Cruise Missile Warning, which will warn teammates of the location and blast radius of the incoming strike.

Using GTA’s classic “wanted stars” system as an inspiration, you’ll also be able to point out high value targets on the opposing team, giving your team a particular enemy to focus on (any enemy with a killstreak of 6 or higher). At the moment, the enemy’s location is relayed to your team for 45 seconds, which might change at the final release. This new mechanic will allow teammate to earn more points by following these orders.

Main Assests Loop

The Cruise Missile

launched from fixed positions on the map, they will fly at cruising altitude before dropping in an arc at the designated point, wiping out anything in the vicinity. Their power is substantial, and this is why a good Commander will use the Cruise Missile Warning asset whenever possible.

Two types of Map Scans

Vehicle and Infantry Scan, used for long-term highlighting of enemy units on the map for your team.

Finally, the AC-130 Gunship

as seen in the Commander Mode videos and in BF3’s Armored Kill, this powerful plane provides ground support from multiple weapons, as well as a mobile spawn point covering a large section of the map.

Squad Loop

Squad Promotion

Boost the squad members’ individual field upgrade bars towards the next unlock.

Vehicle Drop

Deploy a Quad Bike or a light Boat (depending on terrain) via parachute.

Rapid Deploy

Cut the squad’s spawn time in half for a fixed period of time.

Supply Drop

Deploy a large crate that will heal, resupply and repair friendly units. In addition, friendly units will be able to change kits on the field which we think is an interesting tactical addition to the game.

Are you guys excited for the return of Commander Mode?

Sourcre: Battlefield Blog.

 






  • Shinfo

    This makes me a lot less skeptical of Commander mode after reading this.

  • dieger

    a lot less clunky in BF4 btw will the console and pc versions have comma rose @ launch?

    • B_Boss

      I actually don’t know if nextgen will have Commo-Rose but I assume so. I could have sworn I saw that they will. PC will definitely have it and in addition, the Commo-Rose will not have a ‘text feed’ which is amazing. You can find it in Reddit. Someone actually took a screenshot of it (sorry but I don’t have the link handy at the moment).

  • KennyKyle
    • ButteredBread

      ?? ….Dude this is the map for Siege of Shanghai, it’s not new.

      • MrSunshine

        Click on the picture, it’s an animated gif that shows the map with the dam.

        • oofy

          Ooh…a sub.

        • I’ve been hearing this is the map that won the Premium map contest. True?

          • MrSunshine

            No idea.

  • BF4 vs Ghost

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIIgdSW6O4 inrelavent topic but funny xD

    • SufferingMoon5

      irrelevant*

    • Chad Eugene Rash

      Dice is using an 5yr old gimmick. Get over yourself.

    • roland0811

      Arcade-y twitch shooter without vehicles Vs. Arcade-y twitch shooter with vehicles…..That’s all I see.

  • GrenadeCatcher

    And im sure i’ll get some 12 year old quickscoping retard as a commander of my team and screw it all up.

    • KennyKyle

      HAHAHA YOU’RE A RETARD!

    • Justin

      How? He would be quickscoping, not using commander mode. Plus in the article it stats, “Battlefield 4 Commanders will not have the possibility of switching between Commander Mode and a 1st-person soldier mode.”

      • AtheistMason

        Of course there are possibilities that noobs will be commanders… Just look at how many noobs that can’t fly fights for a jet/chopper in BF3… They only do what they think is fun but care nothing about the stranger team, which messes up the game..

        • Justin

          True, but you know sometimes need have fun in the game. I mean don’t get wrong I see your point. But noobs will be noobs. But the guy’s comment was just dumb.

          • AtheistMason

            They can have their fun in TDM or Rush since in these modes their performance won’t affect the match too much. In a round minutes ago some noobs drove a tank into the water. That’s not how a reasonable people have fun……

            • Gaming2Ghost

              rush is the worst game mode for noobs to drives tanks and jest and helis in because these vichels are they key for the winning for the winging team and the defender need to be good player to protected the mcoms I would prefer noobs to mess up at conquest rather than rush

            • John a

              It also does not help that rush is rather bad on BF3. It is nothing like BC2 was.

            • Justin

              I agree, but like I said noobs will be noobs.

        • Gaming2Ghost

          you will the ability to rate them as bad if they are not doing great and get kicked out and replaced so hopefully if your team agrees that he is 12 years old then he will get kicked

        • John a

          I would not say i am a master at flying a helicopter or jet but I am pretty good. But there is some people who are really insane flying. Is there a trick or do they change the controls in the menus. Or is it because all they do is fly all the time. I talked to a guy on BF3 and he flew the helicopter and he was absolutely insane going whole matches without getting shot down. His gamertag was VFCLOWN. I gunned for him and I went 23-0 which is crazy considering we never got killed in the chopper.

          I asked him how he was so good and he said it just takes a lot of practice and he said he played against the best in the world and he learned lots of tactics. He had a buddy who did the same in the jet and he was amazing. i think personally they have a way to tweak the controls that are better than default.

    • WarHero

      Lars aka “Mr.Battlefield” from DICE said in an interview that he was aware of this situation and that players can rate commanders if they’re good or bad.

  • Rave

    Spotted for 45 seconds if you get a 6 killstreak or higher? Oh god, punishing good players?

    • Justin

      I mean would like it if you could mark everyone on the map. That would for your team but not for the other. They had to make it balance, just saying.

    • B_Boss

      Yes its called “High Value Targets” but also the one who is High Value also gets more Exp. per kill and other goodies I believe as well. This was talked about with JackFrags interviewing DICE’s Lars Gustavsson (who’s just awesome btw)

      (source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4frYp2ceWBw&feature=c4-overview&list=UUw7FkXsC00lH2v2yB5LQoYA)

      • John a

        Lars Gustavsson has been developing BF games for 40 years so i would listen to him when he talks.

        • Chuckiechan

          I think they have made the game too hard, and that is why you have so many snipers making the game less fun for everyone else.

          Most games now have at a minimum 40% sniper which is 20% too high.

          Result, lots of people are leaving for other games leaving lots of empty servers and “Locker” – the BF4 version of “Metro” the BF arcade style game.

          They need to cap the number of snipers per map.

    • MrSunshine

      More like an incentive to kill that fucking helicopter that’s be killing everyone since the game started instead of ignoring the sonofabitch and putting all the effort into killing “Xxx_L33tSnipeZ360NoSkopz420YoLoSwagGangsta_xxX” sitting at the ass end of the map doing jack shit.

      It’s a way to get people to focus.

    • zacflame

      It should be that IF they get spotted, they get marked with a HVT marker.
      What I mean is-what if they are playing rather stealthy? I don’t want to lose mojo just for getting 6 kills.

      • Katana67

        Agreed. I also think the spot cone needs to be made smaller, I still can reliably just spam “Select” and spot people all day. Your reticle should have to be on target to spot infantry.

        • zacflame

          *Ahem* Did you not notice the new “finger spotting”? Your character points with his left index finger every time you spot, so you cannot spam it as fast and you cannot ADS.

          • Katana67

            I’ll reserve judgment to see how it plays out in BF4. It could just be an animation when you’re not ADS. You could snap out of the animation if you ADS. Plus, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen ADS spotting in the live-feeds which looked pretty spam-able.

            I could care less about the “spam” nature of it, just the ease in which people can be spotted is what bugs me.

            *Ahem*

            • zacflame

              The useless “*Ahem*” feels like an insult.

            • Katana67

              As does yours 😀

            • zacflame

              But mine served a purpose, when used at the beginning of the sentence.

            • Katana67

              What purpose was that? Because your sentence/statement looked fine and succinct other than that. Generally, “Ahem” is a colloquialism used to indicate snobbery or a passive-aggressive interruption into the conversation. The dictionary lists “Ahem” as an “exclamation or cough to get attention”, “an exclamation of disapproval or annoyance”, or “an exclamation used to indicate sarcasm”.

              Two grammar arguments in one day, interwebs…

              Remove the *Ahem* from your post and your point is made without the attitude. The purpose of mine was to mock yours.

            • zacflame

              Done.
              I hope you do the same so we may do business again sometime.

            • WarBroh

              cry more, not less

      • carlos

        they only get spotted to the commander for him to designate them as a HVT

        • FOOTFUK

          Okay. I have a Commander beef here. As you say Carlos, sure it`s great IF the Commander spots the guy to be designated as a HVT.. BBBUUUTTTTTTTT, there is one thing that everyone is not realizing here and it is this:
          For example, .I USED to volunteer for the valuable Commander mode quite a bit ( to do what you have asked for and more) and simply LOVED it; yet, I now have stopped helping my team for a beauty reason.

          Ask me why?!

          SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          NO-ONE FRIGGIN LISTENS OR FOLLOWS DIRECTION!!!!

          Now, all is ask is for a FEW team leaders to follow direction
          ( recall I am in the “eye in the sky” and see how to best help my team to allow us hopefully the best chance to win the game). If only the players knew the value of this mode, the XPs we can get, the extra AC-130 spawn point we get, the highly valued squad asset and Commander loops we can benefit from, the extra points we get from FOLLOWING ORDERS in each match ETC ETC ETC,

          BUT….WWWWWWHHHYYYYYYYY do almost ALL the team leaders NEVER respond, never acknowledge, never mic up (I`m sure we are not all 9 year olds who mute our mics only to be discovered), never attack or defend objectives you point out and a lot of other crap I don`t have time to mention here!
          It`s a lonely job up there in the sky as you are 100% committed for the whole map and no-one responds or follows direction!!!.

          So screw it, I have decided to go with the flow, I now only go in as a troop or squad leader, FOLLOW THE COMMANDERS INSTRUCTIONS, and fight on the maps.

          PLEAAASEEEEEEE listen up everyone and PLEASEEEEEE do as the Commander says ( at least 70% of the time)……you will not believe how much incredible ,advantage you will have to win the game!!!!!!

          Okay….I am off the grid now

          Later guys…good forum btw

    • Katana67

      Oh dear lord. I agree.

      They don’t need to be made more obvious. If you’re killing that many people, folks know where you are. They’re probably just at too great a disadvantage to take you out. And if they don’t, so be it, props to you for having an awesome spot.

      This might ruin good gameplay. I hope the commander actually has to find the person, and mark them. Rather than the person being automarked.

      I really hope Hardcore circumvents a lot of this crap. The racism against campers really hits hard in BF4.

      • John a

        More like racism against snipers. But DICE including 20 and 40x scopes should help a bit.

        • Katana67

          I agree, but this is about placing an artificially increased importance/visibility on someone for just getting a lot of kills without getting killed themselves. Kills can be acquired in a number of ways (which I’m sure you’re aware of) so it’s punishing -everyone- while at the same time punishing people who focus on getting kills even moreso.

          I get that DICE wants to make Commander a significant position. But I’m not convinced this is anywhere near the rigt way to do it. People who get long killstreaks are -already- high-profile targets. Why do we need a Commander to place an artificial “spot” on them to further put them at a disadvantage?

          (DISCLAIMER – Not bragging, as I have no idea where this fits in to the rest of the field)

          Let me put it this way, I have a longest killstreak of 52. My K/D in BF3 is 2.97 without any stat resets and is steadily climbing. I don’t bat an eye at a 6 killstreak. I get them all of the time. I regularly get hoards of people rushing in like morons to try and kill me when I’m overlooking B on Gulf of Oman. People knowing where I am isn’t really something I can avoid at this point.

          So I ask two questions…

          Why is 6 the threshold for HVT? This should probably be much higher, around 10-15.

          Why does someone, who’s already pissed off a larger percentage of folks on the other team, need to be highlighted any more than he/she already is?

      • WarBroh

        “RACISM” against campers? what are you, twelve years old? try opening a dictionary some time, its not going to kill you.

        • Katana67

          I have as a matter of fact! Racism, being synonymous with discrimination, fits perfectly!

          Unsure what age has to do with abstract thought in this regard, but to answer your question… No! I am not twelve years of age.

          • Gannon

            No.
            The word “racism” is not synonymous with the word “discrimination”. If it is used as so, it is used incorrectly.

            • Katana67
            • Gannon

              I did understand what you attempted to say, as did everyone else I’m sure. I just wanted to point out that the word “racism” is not in fact synonymous with the term “discrimination”.

              A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle is not always a square, just as racism is always discrimination, but discrimination is not always racism.

              Sexism is also a form of discrimination, but I think you would agree, it just doesn’t fit so well in “said context”. Words have very slightly different meanings for a very specific purpose- to use in different situations. If “racism” was entirely synonymous with the word “discrimination”, then why does the word “discrimination” even exist?

              Also, because of that fact, I would like to point out that the thesaurus doesn’t provide true synonyms that can always be interchangeable in every context. It just provides similar, and related words, which can sometimes be interchangeable. Your said case, was not one of those times.

            • Katana67

              So if you and everyone else understood what I said, then why does it matter?

              Akin to the clip vs. magazine argument. One means one thing, the other means another, the terms are interchangeable dependent on context and relevance, one is more accurate than the other, yet everyone knows what was meant regardless.

            • Gannon

              I wont debate with you about why it matters. That’s a matter of opinion. You’re obviously an intelligent person. I just wanted to point out that you were technically incorrect.

          • Racism is definitely associated with discrimination, but is by no means another word for it as its a term to precisely identify the association of discrimination by race.

    • John a

      Yeah makes the sniper class more useless than in BF3. Well back to hardcore mode. I love how people think they are so good at this game when there is giant red Christmas trees above peoples heads. Play hardcore and you got to be aware of your surroundings at all times. Then you got people who say hardcore mode is easy mode but there is only 10% of servers playing hardcore. Because shooting someone point blank with a tank shell in normal mode and they survive is not easy mode LOL.

      Normal is nothing but a bullet sponge mode where noobs and try hards can bunny hop and survive waves of bullets. Then normal mode has regen armor and health so which mode is easy mode.

      • James Mulhall

        Oh god.. one of you. Hardcore is easier than normal for a lot of reasons but I’ll give you the main reason why its easier.. If you die quicker its automatically easier. It requires less aim and it just leads to a cluster fuck of whoever has the better connection wins. Also, isn’t the reason all you BF fanboys hate on CoD is because it takes ‘no skill’ and its easier than BF?

        “Because shooting someone point blank with a tank shell in normal mode and they survive is not easy mode LOL.” No. That requires good aim.

        • Katana67

          Neither are easier, they just require different things. Hardcore’s ease of killing someone is offset by the ease of getting killed yourself.

          Why people hate on either is beyond me. Advocate for the one you like best, don’t trash the playstyle you don’t play.

        • They are both considered “easier“ respective reasons but its true that normal has far more crutches than hardcore. 3D spotting, auto health regen that near eliminates the need for nedkits, vehicle auto regen and vehicles perks like fire extinguisher and maintenance that near eliminates the need for engineers. Proof of that is Maintenance not even a functional upgrade on Hardcore, BC vehicles don’t repair themselves in HC!. All in all I play hardcore because the lack of a HUD adds to the immersion. Removing HUD on normal even if it were possible would ddefeat the purpose in which case you’re better off playing Hardcore.

          And to address the notion of “requiring less aim.” There is a visible crosshair for hipfiring on normal. EVERY video commentary I see on YouTube from channels like PixelEnemy, the player almost ALWAYS sprays and all of his videos are on normal mode. Requiring less aim applies to either mode

          • Katana67

            That and “less aim” is insanely vague. Keeping your reticule on target for a longer/shorter period of time, as dictated by damage/health, is what we’re all getting at. It really isn’t by providence of “skill” that dictates this aspect of Hardcore.

          • James Mulhall

            I don’t think it takes a genius to know where your crosshair is. Spraying on hardcore would be even easier than normal.

        • John a

          God forbid somebody dies with bullets or a tank shell. Hardcore is more realistic period.

          People love easy stuff so why is there no people in hardcore then? Here is why.

          1. No regen easy mode health.
          2. No magic robot fixing your vehicle.

          3. Bullets actually do damage instead off magazines of bullets.
          4. No look I am over here red markers.
          5. PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK IN A TEAM FIXING AND THROWING OUT KITS.

          • James Mulhall

            GOD DAMMIT! I had a really long point that I was making then someone skyped me and I went to pick up the mouse and while I tried to grab it I hit the back button and lost the entire message! Anyway, it short, I agree with Katana. NOW WE SHOULD ALL PLAY WHAT WE ENJOY! 😀

            EDIT: I think I’ll make one of my points clear though.

            ” Bullets actually do damage instead off magazines of bullets. Normal mode it is usually who is got the fastest firing gun wins. Why do you think you see AEK everywhere.” That still doesn’t mean that hardcore requires more skill.. it just fixes the problems that you’d find on normal. Although, I agree with most of your points and I think Katana said it best.

            • Guest

              Yeah play what you want. Great argument though. LOL

    • James Mulhall

      Oh god.. I seriously hate when devs put features in like this.. why do I deserve to be punished if I have some twat on my team is doing bad? To be honest, features that reveal your position other than spotting shouldn’t be in the game. If I’m trying to sneak behind enemies while on a decent killstreak I shouldn’t be revealed if the rest of my team isn’t doing as well.

      • John a

        I know we are getting are panties in a not over this but I do think there will be a counter to it like with the field upgrades and stuff. i hope.

        • James Mulhall

          Hope so.

    • Bruno Espirito Santo

      More like: “Imma beast!!! Come and get me if you can bitchesss!”

  • T-51B

    Oh wow. Guys like me are gonna be getting marked as targets like on homefront. Its… gonna spice things up for sure.

    • I knew I wasn’t the only one who recognized the HVT feature!

  • ThePoolshark

    You guys missed the submarine….

    • oofy

      Ooh…a sub!

  • Katana67

    Again DICE, how are Commander Mode and Hardcore going to jive?

  • MegaMan3k

    I can’t wait to have a super skilled and talented squad that is doing really well… but on a team that’s being sandbagged by a moron commander that’s doing more harm than good.

    • MrSunshine

      The Commander would have to be some special kind of moron. I guess giving out quad-bikes & Jet-skis to the other team and dropping Tomahawks in random places might have an effect… but since what the Commander can do is tied to the objectives, (Or so I’ve heard.) it looks like it’ll be somewhat difficult.

      You would almost have to respect that kind of moron.

      • MegaMan3k

        It’d be like the guy who uses a helicopter to take himself, and only himself, to A flag, and then bails the helicopter and gives it to the enemy. And then throws C4 all over A then dies. Then later, when a squad tries to cap A, a single grenade hits the C4 and kills the entire squad.

        In a game where this is not only possible, but common, the fear that a commander can sandbag a team into defeat is fully reasonable.

        • koloco1980

          C4 disappears when you die.

        • John a

          There is going to be balance issues and problems with commander guaranteed. Especially on console where half the gamers are freaking morons and just play to fuck with people. Was playing on PS3 today and some fag kept following me around the whole match standing in front of me and shit. Wait till a guy like that gets in commander mode.

    • John a

      You think that is bad wait till you play hardcore mode and you get some guy where his mom stopped breast feeding him and he is pissed at the world. He is gonna cruise missile the team he is on. Give vehicles to the other team and who knows what else.

  • JustinD

    I would like to know more about hardcore mode.

  • CoDforever

    People are actually impressed with this basic shit ? Pretty much the only new thing to battlefield 4.

    • Justin

      What a douche!?

      • John a

        Understatement of the year.

        • oofy

          By a little or a lot?

          • John a

            A LOT.

    • AtheistMason

      Not impressed at all. We know what shitty stuffs will happen after release.
      This isn’t the only new thing to BF4 though….

      • CoDforever

        Actually sorta, Levolution is bascally a reword of destruction and not much else .. except their bringing 64 players and 60 fps (which cod had for years btw) over to consoles

        • MrSunshine

          CoD had 64 players on console? Really? Oh wait, no, they never had that many players in a single game on console.

          And it’s not hard to run at 60 fps using an engine older than the consoles they’re played on.

          • CoDforever

            yea we do have 64 players dont you know that 64 players on nuketown is a fan favorite

            • John a

              You loving nuketown just explained you are beyond dumb and help.

            • CoDforever

              I was being a troll. Ofcourse we dont have 64 players cuz we have smaller, unique more fast paced maps than battlefield will ever have. Idgaf about 64 players, i dont get why everyones “SOO” excited about it. with 64p theyre gonna make the maps fukn huge as hell and its still gonna take two to minutes to kill 1 guy. Have fun with bf3.1 and pay for your double xp weekends (YOU FKN NEED PREMIUM FOR DXP LOOOOL) and go pay for your private servers as well

            • IhateuJohna

              You are not a troll you are so stupid you really believe this stuff admit it. Or you have got so much of activision spunk in your eyes that you cannot see that BF is the better shooter. I forgive you.

          • CoDforever

            I was being a troll. Ofcourse we dont have 64 players cuz we have smaller, unique more fast paced maps than battlefield will ever have. Idgaf about 64 players, i dont get why everyones “SOO” excited about it. with 64p theyre gonna make the maps fukn huge as hell and its still gonna take two to minutes to kill 1 guy. Have fun with bf3.1 and pay for your double xp weekends (YOU FKN NEED PREMIUM FOR DXP LOOOOL) and go pay for your private servers as well lol

        • IhateuJohna

          CoDforever is actually a reword of COD=FAGS.

    • IhateuJohna

      You are the reason freedom of speech needs to be looked at and changed.

      • CoDforever

        I was being a troll. Ofcourse we dont have 64 players cuz we have smaller, unique more fast paced maps than battlefield will ever have. Idgaf about 64 players, i dont get why everyones “SOO” excited about it. with 64p theyre gonna make the maps fukn huge as hell and its still gonna take two to minutes to kill 1 guy. Have fun with bf3.1 and pay for your double xp weekends (YOU FKN NEED PREMIUM FOR DXP LOOOOL) and go pay for your private servers as well haha lol

        • IhateuJohna

          You are lame and it astounds me how retarded you really are and obliviously you have never played BF. Do not play BF because you will get butt hurt and cry.

          • CoDforever

            Shutup ive played your shitty bf3 i shoot people 50 times and they end up killing me with 1% health left how is that even possible every bullet does atleast 20% dmg from any range

            • IhateuJohna

              I knew you got butt hurt.

            • Winneruuuuuuuu!
              Ihateujonahruuuu!

        • IhateuJohna

          I am pretty sure they offer XP for non premium members. Thanks for being more dumb. You really need to stop typing and quit while you got some dignity left.

          • CoDforever

            They probably have free dxp weekends now cuz its 2 years since the game came out LOL not to mention BF3 premium was a copy of Cod elite premium back in mw3 thats why it came out 8 months late LOL face it your game is shit titanfall and cod FTW!

  • Chad Eugene Rash

    I hope they have a playlist without commander mode.

    • mechcell

      It is up to the server admin to use them or not.

      • zakrocz

        Has this been confirmed?

  • CoDforever

    You know whats funny ? Siege of shanghai map was filled with skyscrapes and only one can collapse ..

    • Justin

      Take a look at my comment COD Cum Dumpster^^^

    • AtheistMason

      lol true. The other buildings can’t even be damaged, let alone collapsing. But man if you post here you will be bashed and downvoted because you know how things are on MP1st….. You can’t say negative things about BF4 even if it’s true or u’ll be called COD Cum Dumpster by 10-yr-old BF fucktards that thinks there are more COD trolls in here. XD

      • MrSunshine

        It was already said, by the developers, that they did it for game play reasons. They could make it so every building can collapse but then all will be left is a map covered in dust and rubble.

        Also, other buildings. http://i.imgur.com/FwjZHUf.gif

        • AtheistMason

          Ah, I mean those buildings around Objective A. The residential buildings.

          Of course they can add scripts to every building to make them collapse. 😀

        • CoDforever

          Ok just shut up. Stop riding battlefields dick.

          • MrSunshine

            Look who’s talking. It must be very hard for you to sit, with it being so far in there.

            • CoDforever

              The real reason only one building can collapse and not all is cuz they would have to pre program and animate every building falling. And i never said every building should be able to collapse, just more than “one”. Your also retarded if you think a collapsed building will turn into thin air and there will be nothing else in the map. I cant believe you retards believe all of DICE’S excuses.

            • IhateuJohna

              Are we really going to compare COD destruction with BF destruction. You are really dumb.

            • CoDforever

              BTw, Mw3’s building collapse was way better than bf4’s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXMbt_I99UA

            • IhateuJohna

              You are not a troll you really do believe this shit. What are you like 5 years old. I bet you think Pong has the greatest graphics too. I am done talking to you I am losing brain cells by doing so.

          • John a

            Jealousy will cause these comments. Show me one COD video ever even from ghosts that looks better than the new Paracel gameplay. PS. I will not be holding my breath.

            • CoDforever

              The paracel storm trailer ? You retard, whatever happened in that trailer was taken from a 30 minute scripted gameplay. I bet half the shit you saw in the trailer will probably never happen when your actually play the shitty game. The cod ghosts mp trailer looked way better than your shitt bf3.5 trailer

            • IhateuJohna

              That was all multiplayer you retarded cum bubble. Hell the whole COD series is nothing but a scripted piece of shit. BF shits all over COD you brainwashed Activision Nut sucker.

            • CoDforever

              The destruction in BF is also pre programmed retard shutup CoD and titanfall will shit all over Battlefield AGAIN

            • IhateuJohna

              Everything in a game is pre programmed dumb dumb. Titanfall does not even have destruction so some next gen game that is. BF has already done mechs. Next. Also wait till BF brings back BF 2142 and Titanfall will be a afterthought.

            • CoDforever

              HHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU THINK BATTLEFIELD IS GONNA SHIT ON TITANFALLL HAHAHAHA HAVE FUN PAYING FOR YOUR DOUBLE XP

            • IhateuJohna

              I will speek in your language. DERP DERP DA DERP DA DERP DAD DERP

            • CoDforever

              If everything in a game is pre programmed than nothing in a game is impressive. CoD could’ve had pre programmed destruction as well but they didnt for the better.

            • IhateuJohna

              BF has better destruction than any military shooter period. Go stand inside a building and see if i do not blow a hole in a wall exposing your bitch ass behind it. Sounds dynamic to me. COD does not have any destruction in there multiplayer that can be caused by players. Ghosts will have it but it will be crap compared to BF.

            • CoDforever

              shutup go pay for your dxp weekends and pay for your private matches ($400 for 6 months TROLOLOLOL) and get excited cuz Battlefield is FINALLY gonna be 60 fps when cod’s been doing it for 7 years now LOOOL

            • IhateuJohna

              Dude you could run COD engine in 60fps on a windows 94 computer. Like I said before you get double xp if you are not a premium member it just does not last as long.

            • CoDforever
          • IhateuJohna

            We will get off BF dick when your mom gets off ours.

    • John a

      Meanwhile in COD a wooden fence blocks bullets.

      • CoDforever

        Meanwhile in BF a single knife swipe cuts the entire fence

        • Alex Melendez

          Meanwhile in the internet, fanboys fought about VIDEO GAMES!!

          • John a

            Meanwhile on the internet nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

            • Alex Melendez

              Video GAMES!!!

        • John a

          Meanwhile in COD you cannot even do that.

          • CoDforever

            wtf ? talk about realism TROLOLOLOL

    • IhateuJohna

      You know what else is funny your farts smell like latex.

  • Justin

    You know what I can’t fuckin stand, wait ill tell you! Fuckin douchebag COD TROLLS who just come on every BF post and bash it like dude shut the fuck up, like are you proud of COD GHOSTS!? Damn why don’t you give it a reach around and then take the game right up your ass, go bash some other game and find some new friends faggot!!!

    • AtheistMason

      Whoa, bro, calm down.

      http://mp1st.com/2013/08/28/call-duty-ghosts-free-fall-multiplayer-map-preview/

      ^ this is how “fuckin douchebag” BF TROLLS who come to every COD post and bash it like dude shut the fuck up. Compared to COD trolls on BF article, those BF trolls are greater in numbers and much more annoying.

      People always think what they themselves do is right. Get over it.

    • Masada157

      > Implying BF players don’t constantly troll COD articles.

      Your post is extremely mature by the way. Referring to COD players as “faggots” and telling them to shove game discs up their rectums speaks volumes about how the BF community is a bastion of intelligence and maturity.

      • Don’t generalize him or any of them with players like me. I have an older brother that love CoD and I don’t hate him for it, he plays BF occasionally but just like cod better

  • CoDforever

    *irrelevant* you know, i wonder .. what if Activision put the Call of duty IP on sale ? EA would probably sell battlefield and even fifa maybe to purchase it ? and if EA does, what will they do with it ? Its an interesting question, I just wanna know what you guys think

    • mechcell

      You know that Activision will never going to sell call of duty IP. If Activision sell it to EA and EA will finally give call of duty a new game engine and make it every two years.

      • AtheistMason

        Unlikely.

      • oofy

        Maybe never sell it, but if it stops making money, they’ll can it.

  • AtheistMason

    Haha nice. 6 killstreaks –> spotted for 45 sec –> nubs come at me brah –> gets more nubkills –> 20+ killstreak.

    Lol, DICE you guys are awesome.

    • John a

      Wait to you see all the noobs and assault whores standing over dead bodies trying to revive not knowing there is a 4 second delay now. I cannot wait to mow there ass down.

      • AtheistMason

        Haha. And they need to charge the defib first. That’s when I decided to forgo my buzz-buzz and be a true assaultrooper.

        • John a

          Imagine though how much better Metro would be with this little feature. Although I will miss flanking them and getting massive amount of kills because they all got there defibs out. My M249 and Saiga 12k loves Medic whores.

          • AtheistMason

            Haha, free-kill buddies! Sometimes I can farm ~4 kills from a single downed soldier (gets downed and revived back and downed again…)

  • Alpine

    So, I have to make sure:

    1) to NOT get the commander roll
    2) and dont get a killstreak higher than 6

    • MrSunshine

      Well, if you play the objectives the possibility of getting a streak without dying is pretty low. Who knows, maybe the HVT will reset if you get shot down but are revived. Technically, you’ll still be on a streak but you’ll be out of the fight for a short bit of time.

      • Alpine

        so can the commander actually play as a soldier like everybody else or is it just look at the map dropping shit? i cant quite understand the

        ” Commanders will not have the possibility of switching between Commander Mode and a 1st-person”

        • MrSunshine

          They’re outside of the game, looking at the map and giving orders and whatever.

          64 players on the map doing the FPS thing + 2 commanders overhead.

          • Alpine

            honestly, that seems pretty retarded (no offence) but why would i or anyone for that matter want to look at a map for 40 minutes ?!!

            • AtheistMason

              Better than nothing …

            • Alpine

              actually i rather watch the paint dry (lol not really) . I hope DICE allow players to somehow pass the roll to someone else. I dont want to be forced to playas a commander..I aint no commander

            • AtheistMason

              Same here. Commander mode would be really useful in Clan battles but I don’t know if they would enable it since commanders spot all enemies… IMO it will be too unbalanced if one team is made up of organized players.

            • MrSunshine

              People like to lead, I guess. It worked very well in Battlefield 2, and it’s quite a popular feature in games like Natural Selection.

              It’s like playing a strategy game but with random levels of AI that doesn’t always listen to you but when they do it can be satisfying. Even better if you have friends with you.

              I don’t think the Commander role is random, I think there was an option to want to be a one in Battlefield 2. “Do you want to be Commander if one isn’t available? Yes? No?” Pretty sure DICE will do a similar thing in BF4.

            • Alpine

              I guess it could be fun when you are on a tablet…I could see myself playing the role if I had a tablet…maybe an actual reason to get one after all…I read that the guy with the highest rank is chosen as the commander i just hope it is not a forced role ie i hope there is an option to pass the role along to someone else…

              at the end, i am very much looking forward to playing it..

    • oofy

      What about if I have the role of commander and I get on a roll?

  • eBunny

    I always love it when BF players think or say that they and the BF community are mature or perhaps *more* mature than let’s say the CoD community, because they’re obviously not. Though at the same time it often makes me sick reading all that ignorance.

    • That guy you might know

      Sometimes when I play it feels like it to me. I was in a game of squad deathmatch and I ended up getting put in a squad with a bunch of kids. Maybe around 12 or 13

      They were like strategists or something, pointing out enemies, tossing supplies for each other.

      I don’t get kids often in BF as much as CoD, and 9 times out of 10 the kids on BF don’t yell and drop your mom jokes as much as CoD. I was playing Black Ops 2 yesterday and some older players were going back and forth over nonsense, I wasn’t there for the last game but I’m sure it wasn’t worth hearing it from my tv. But if you mean the fanboys, then I agree, they’re the dumbest group of cunts in gaming just like any other fanboy.

      • eBunny

        Don’t want to get too much into this, but have you ever been on Battlelog and seen the comment sections of a news post or something? It’s like hell reading a lot of those comments. And those stupid CoD jokes we’ve all seen or heard a billion times “Meanwhile in CoD, a window breaks”. It’s just stupid.

        But like you said, in my experience it’s not too bad in-game either. And you know, with a big AAA game like this, or even with a smaller game like an indie title, it’ll never be perfect, there will always be people that might want to ruin the game for you or that are just ignorant.

        • That guy you might know

          I’ve never been to the Battlelog forums, but I will honestly admit when I first heard the “Meanwhile in CoD, a car explodes” joke. I died, it was so funny because MW3 was out at the time and that game……

          But I feel like the websites for both are tragically bad, so I feel like thats just the hardcore fanboys on each. So the in game experience is a better way to describe a community, well to me at least.

          • eBunny

            Hmm perhaps, I don’t know.

            But I actually saw this video, which is about communities as well, right after I posted my previous comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiQyp2gnkNo

            I think he has some great thoughts and makes good points. He’s talking about Planetside 2 in particular, but it could really apply to any community, so I’d recommend you checking it out.

            • Guest

              you have too much time on your hand…you watch a video about someone else’s thought on how communities are…I believe you are being too sensitive ..so what somebody says a nasty joke about COD, why should you take it personal…look at it this way they are wasting their time hating why you are enjoying your time playing your game (COD or w/e)…its like complaining about why some people are on welfare..well they just are and you have the option to keep moaning or advance toward a better life for your self

        • zakrocz

          You don’t have to go to battlelog forums, BF comments section on mp1st is becoming as bad as that place.

    • John a

      Fun is Fun

  • The High Value Target system reminds me of Homefront multiplayer mode(I think it was either Ground War, or it was called “Commander” if memory serves me)It’s pretty much the exact same feature, nothing wrong with it, a good idea to implement if you ask me

    • B_Boss

      There are quite a few things that can be argued against “HVT”…..it just makes it easier for players to kill a player who is kicking ass. I play Hardcore 100% of the time so I hope that this feature will be eliminated or reduced somehow. I guess in the end I’ll just deal but I’m not too crazy about it.

  • DamnSkippy

    Saying it now this and the snipers with the 40x scopes will be the first things to be nerfed/changed hopefully there’s a no commander option to make everybody happy getting missiled because of being on a killstreak is BS

  • John a

    motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!!

  • Joseph

    People are sorta taking things the wrong way here…let me (try)explain what I mean.

    Anyone familiar with the 360 version of BF3 and a regular on European servers will know what I’m talking about here..

    Yaknow those #l33t medic squads that run around going 30-0 and 29,000 points?? Well they’re going to have to actually put some work in to get on top in BF4. I consider myself a pretty good player and like everyone else I have my amazing streaks and then I seem to get shat on for 20 games in a row by some dirty squad of lil’ bitches all using the same loadout. From what DICE have shown so far I don’t see that being as big of a problem in BF4….No ADS while spotting and the defibs have been given a going over…finally!

    …”you’ll also be able to point out high value targets on the opposing team, giving your team a particular enemy to focus on”, this really is a good thing in my opinion, people are going have to really stick together if they want to make it out on top and that should mean a decrease in idiots who are just in it to ruin the game for everyone else.

    That one bitch being followed by his bitches are going to be lit up on everyone’s mini-map and the chances of them getting wiped out by a nearby tank/chopper is pretty damn high. People LOVE ending an enemies streak. It’ll give the n00bs something to point at..

    The only thing I still hate and probably hasn’t been fixed yet is that one guy who manages to spawn in the helo but it just so happens he’s adamant about getting his friend in there (even to the point of drowning the chopper if you don’t budge which I never do lol)…they need to fix that, perhaps if someone is standing outside a chopper shooting you in the head with an LMG while his friend bounces around tea-bagging the chopper on the helipad the game will notice and fling them both into the middle of the action with nothing but a plastic spork and the words ”QUIT IT” permanently written on their screen until they take an objective or something.. that’d be a real nice touch. 😛

    Basically Commander mode is a bitchin’ idea and sure, knowing DICE, it’ll likely be OP at the beginning of the game but in the end it’s only going to help the good guys.
    #sporksinbf4

  • Ryan Schulze
    • AtheistMason

      In BF3 I love practicing in Unranked CQL servers xD

  • Akhil Gadipudi

    since commander cannot switch between playing as a solider and being commander, can we be commander on a smart phone or tablet while on a trip or so, without having a computer to play the game?

    • Xephos0

      This may be ages later (and I just found this post) but yes, on the tablet, there is Battlelog and Battlefield Commander you need to install to play. (Battlelog is optional if you’re just going to join a random server on Commander)

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